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Think you’ve never experienced a traumatic event?

Think again.

“Trauma is part of life,” says Dr. James Gordon. “It comes to everyone sooner or later.”

Even prolonged stress from this global pandemic can trigger a trauma response. It’s normal, natural, and 100% overcome-able.

In today’s MarieTV, Dr. Gordon will teach you simple, proven tools for healing trauma that don’t cost a dime — so you’re ready when the inevitable arrives. And he knows what he’s talking about.

When trauma comes, we can learn from it, heal from it, and move through it.  @drjamesgordon Click To Tweet

Dr. Gordon released his newest book, Transforming Trauma, after fifty years of work and research in war-torn nations and disease-stricken communities around the world. He’s a Harvard educated psychiatrist, chair of the White House Commission on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Policy, and director of The Center for Mind-Body Medicine.

I truly believe the concepts and tools his book — and in the episode below — should be taught to people of all ages. We can’t escape hardship, but we can grow stronger through the crises that come our way.

Watch now and learn:

  • The most dangerous myths we believe about trauma
  • 5 trauma symptoms you might be experiencing right now
  • The Soft-Belly technique to reverse fight-or-flight
  • Why shaking and dancing are necessary for healing
  • The journaling technique that lowers stress and improves your mood
  • How to instantly feel better using your body’s natural painkiller

If you’ve been feeling stressed, overwhelmed, brain-fogged, or numb lately, please watch this episode now.

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DIVE DEEPER: Need a quick stress reliever? Try this 3-minute tapping technique with Nick Ortner, then learn how to build unshakeable inner strength with neuroscientist Dr. Rick Hanson.

Now Dr. Gordon and I would love to hear from you.

What’s your biggest insight, aha, or takeaway from this conversation?

Let us know in the comments below because what you repeat — and especially what you write down — you remember.

Next time you feel the fight-flight-or-freeze reaction in your body, use the strategies you learned today to shake, dance, laugh, and journal it out. Then come back and let us know how it went.

Remember, trauma isn’t something to be scared or ashamed of.

As Dr. Gordon says, “We can become better, more integrated, kinder, more helpful and happier people after we move through the trauma that comes to us.”

Take care of yourself. The world needs you at your best.

XO

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  1. Kelsy

    Hi Team Forleo! Can you confirm that “The Transformation: Discovering Wholeness and Healing After Trauma” and “Transforming Trauma: The Path to Hope and Healing” are the exact same book? (It seems like they just changed the title, but I was wondering if the new book was updated to be more specific to Coronavirus trauma, or if it’s the same as the 2019 version? I’m looking for general info, not Covid-related.) Thanks for this amazing interview and introducing me to this wonderful guy!

    • teamforleo

      Hi there, Kelsy! Thanks for being here and for asking a great question.

      “The Transformation: Discovering Wholeness and Healing After Trauma” is the hardcover version’s title. “Transforming Trauma: The Path to Hope and Healing” is the paperback version’s title that has a new introduction that includes COVID references.

      The key themes mentioned in the interview are discussed in the book, therefore you’d be good to go with either version! We hope that helps! Enjoy the book and thank YOU for asking it. – Heather

      • Kelsy

        That clears things up! Thank you so much for the helpful info. 🙂

  2. I really appreciate the comment about treating trauma DURING it happening to minimise the time of those impacts being entrenched. I work for the National Health Service in the UK in the Children’s Mental Health team, have my own personal experiences of trauma, and have an MSc in Neuroscience, so this is one of my big topics I want to scream from the rooftops about.

    This entire conversation covered so many things I’m currently trying to write about in my newsletter and articles! It’s both validating to hear but also I’m thinking “people need my work!”

    I feel that we are only just catching up to the idea that any emotions, any unhelpful response… we need to let it move through us / move through it in order to ‘dissolve’ or ‘deal with’ it instead of running or hiding or labelling it ‘Wrong.’

    I also teach the kids (and adults I coach) to ‘shake’ like a dog to help get rid of that tension too; because I know the biological background and I love seeing professionals sharing this tip.

    I really want us to start to listen to that merge of science with spirit – to listen to our intuition and understand our brain so we can move forward. I’m also trained in CBT and teach this in my dayjob and coaching, and that’s what I try to share with my podcast and articles.

    And I loved the lesson that we can be sad and still make a joke and laugh. HUmans are so incredible and have this ability to hold two opposing thoughts and feelings at once and that’s okay, it’s natural, and it’s not ‘wrong’ to feel this cognitive dissonance. I also studied the power of journaling and emotional dialogue in my psychology degree, so again, love this tip so much. I call my Fear “kitten” and have an article on my site sharing a “conversation” between me and my fear because so few people know about this tool!

    Thank you for sharing all of this. Thank you for everything you both do.

    • teamforleo

      We so appreciate you, Katy- Rose. Thank you for sharing. – Heather

  3. Louise van der Merwe

    Thanks Marie and Dr Gordon
    You guys are the best. I really needed to hear this today.

    Lou
    xx

    • teamforleo

      We’re so glad that you heard it at the exact moment you needed it, Louise. xo- Heather

  4. Kate Sanders

    Thank you Marie and Team Forleo for another insightful interview. I really look forward to Tuesdays.
    What did I learn? That what I’m doing at the moment is bang on target. Fibre for my gut, Zoom Pilates and yoga, laughter with my partner and dancing. (I love just to dance around the kitchen, just for dancing’s sake.) Once I can start live fitness classes again I’ll pass on my knowledge to my students.

    • teamforleo

      Kate, isn’t that AMAZING! You trusted your intuition and knowledge and were right on the mark. Keep up the amazing work and healing. Sending you loads of Team Forleo love.- Heather

  5. One of my favourite episodes ever!!

    • teamforleo

      Thank you, Camilla. That means the world to us. – Heather

  6. Kathleen

    Dear Dr. Gordon and Marie,
    How can I express what a gift this session has been to me? Years ago my daughter was trapped by rebels in N’djamena Chad for six days. I didn’t sleep the whole time as I pleaded with numerous authorities and entities to get her released…which did happen. Until now, I’ve believed the trauma was hers, not mine. She went on to found an NGO that teaches refugees in camps in Chad and other countries to recover and regain hope through programs the refugees run for their children. But I realized during your talk that I also experienced trauma and it has held me back. I ordered your book and am starting my recovery right now with breathing, shaking it to music, and conversation journaling with my emotions. What a blessing you are. XOXO Kathleen

    • teamforleo

      Goodness, Kathleen. Thank you for sharing your heart and words with all of us here. We’re so sorry that both you and your daughter went through such a traumatic experience. It’s always our hope that the work we share can illuminate something in your own life and it sounds like this conversation did just that. May the book and Dr. Gordon’s work be a guide for your continued healing journey. We see you. – Heather

  7. Pattie Taylor Brown

    Amazing. How the heck did you know that I needed to know about flaxseed? That I needed to know that my telling funny stories during an intensely sad time were not inappropriate. That Taylor Swift’s “Shake it Off” – a recurring tune in my head – was not just an “ear worm” – but what I needed to hear? Wow.

    • teamforleo

      May laughter and dancing continue to serve you and your heart, Pattie. See, you were right! – Heather

  8. Victoria Ann Arthington

    I absolutely loved the conversation with your emotions!!

  9. I find dancing very therapeutic. I go into a mini trance, dancing to some good music.

    Insightful interview. Thank you,

    Sadé Tolani ☀️

  10. My take away is not to take yourself so seriously! Thank you sooo much for this interview. I will use this information and bring it with me to use during my internship as a dance movement therapist working in women’s centers. Truly a gift 🙏

    • teamforleo

      Lena, thank you so much for sharing this with us. – Heather

  11. Bobby

    Marie, I love you! Thanks for introducing me to Dr Gordon. His work is amazing, he is super smart and yet human. My best take away is trauma is normal and inevitable. However we are not powerless to recognize, adjust and grow. I’m going to put the video on Twitter if I can. Much love back. Bobby –

    • teamforleo

      Bobby,

      Thanks for being a part of our community! Glad you enjoyed the episode friend!

      -Antoinette

  12. Melissa

    Thank you so much for the email and video today. While watching I went through the soft belly breathing and instantly found a smile and reason to move. I hope to find Dr Gordon book soon.

    • teamforleo

      We love that you dove right into taking action. Brava, Melissa. – Heather

  13. Barbara Spikes

    This is fabulous. I do a breathing meditation with a woman online who seems to always know my soul. So I know this works. I’m interested in learning more about this work. I know it will help me myself and as I talk to others. Thank you. Barbara
    I don’t know if it’s okay to share my teacher’s website but it’s Breathe Deep Within.

  14. Wanda Bowring

    I thought this was a great guest. But I did disagree with two things. Not everyone heals from trauma and it’s not because you don’t want too. It’s because they may be unaware of what is “wrong” with them. So, awareness is the first step. There is a lot of shame surrounding behaviours and traits and because of that, some people keep a lot of themselves “hidden”. Second thing I disagreed with was Marie’s quote by Maya Angelou (which is likely older still) that, once you know better you do better. That is patently untrue. How many of us absolutely know what’s better for us to do, but still don’t do it? It’s as erroneous as the cigarette campaign that illustrated all the different cancers one could get if you smoked. Addiction isn’t an intellect problem but an emotional one; therefor knowing better does not (necessarily) equal doing better.

  15. Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes!
    Trauma, gut health, vagus nerve, movement, breath… all of it. Thank you for bringing this important information and accessible practices to light. Much love.

  16. Dina J

    I find this message to be in divine time. I was just in a place yesterday of severe trauma that had repositioned it self in my life and had me vividly seeing me take my life. I have been on a long journey and I have overcome many things; I started a leader ship program to figure out what I wanna do when I grow up at 48 years old soon to be 49 and I was triggered in a way I didn’t realize it was still possible. I am so very grateful for this divine timing, even though I am not a big believer in the American traditional divinity, to help me get through. Most of my adult life I have been unemployable for long-term because I had high anxiety and nose skills to take time out for myself to recover from hard work without feeling guilt and pressure. So I was at a place I want to create employment for myself that I love that is comforting to others that is empowering that I can participate in for a long stretch of time and give me an opportunity to feel like I am contributing to the world no just sucky life from it. I am now at a stand still while I work on myself and this is going to be a big challenge for me! I am so very grateful this message is here today thank you

    • teamforleo

      Dina,

      Thank you for sharing your personal experience and journey. We are grateful for having you as part of the community. Continue to shine your special light to the world!

      -Antoinette

  17. Ilene

    This is hugely impactful for me. I am managing well all “the things” until I’m not. And instead of pushing past them, I now see that some of my habits could actually help me – I can be more intentional (and plan to learn more from the book). I am thrilled to keep learning more! Comb.org here I come!

  18. Thank you for bringing Jim into our lives, Marie!!
    I’ll read his book, go to his website and write on my list of ‘pattern interrupts’: laughter!
    xoxo

  19. Jaye D

    Dr. Jim was great, thank you for sharing him with us Marie. I especially like the Journal dialogue and will try it this evening. I’d love for my anxiety to give me some direction and answers!

    • teamforleo

      Jaye,

      So glad that journal dialogue resonated with you as a recommendation from Dr. Gordan. Thank you for being a part of our community!

      -Antoinette

  20. Ana

    Thank you Marie! Thank you for sharing a wonderful interview with Dr. James Gordon. I live and work as an actress/singer in Los Angeles but I am originally from Serbia, and I went through the war you were talking about. It was a horrible, very traumatic experience and I still carry those memories. I will definitely be reading his book! So looking forward to it. Thank you Marie! Love. Ana

    • teamforleo

      Ana,

      Thank you for sharing your personal experience. We hope you enjoy Dr. Gordan’s book too.

      -Antoinette

  21. Stacey Guyett

    Brilliant, thank you x

  22. Rachael

    This was fantastic, thank you! It was just what I needed to hear right now. Love that all Dr. Jim’s suggestions are so easy to do. I was shaking in my chair while he talked and it made me laugh – which was perfect!

  23. Helayne Short

    Fantastic guest to have on and thanks for this choice Marie. I love his holistic approach, it’s the only way to go. I am trying to source the book now in Oz. Thanks again.

  24. Sarah

    Thank you for this video, It really was synchronicity for me as I had just been wondering if I had a kind of trauma/post traumatic response going on this last week after having a hard time with anxiety etc. for years. At the end I felt so understood I cried in relief. What a great human being I had never heard of him before I’m excited to learn more.

    • teamforleo

      Sarah,

      Yay! So glad that this interview with Dr. Gordan came at the right time for you.

      -Antoinette

  25. Pam

    This just shattered life long held damaging beliefs!! Erroneous beliefs passed down generation to generation. Trauma happens to everyone, is normal and I’m completely safe to have it and to move through it!!! Genuinely life changing.
    Thankyou so much!

  26. Oh this interview! The stamp of efficacy and science on what my spirit and gut were leaning to! The new techniques…shaking…conversation with my emotion…wow!
    Because of the overwhelming (and continuing) overdose rates, my NGO is passionate about alternate therapies for treating physical pain (that often are rooted or exacerbated in emotional pain), and some of these techniques are brilliant! We are implementing innovative practices now, and can’t wait to add several of the Dr. Gordon techniques to our arsenal to support people in managing pain and trauma. THANK YOU!!!

    • teamforleo

      Susan,

      We are so happy you enjoyed the interview with Dr. Gordan and sharing your feedback with the community.

      -Antoinette

  27. Thank you so much for bringing the work of Dr. Gordon to our attention.
    Amazingly, as I am going through my own journey of recovery from PTSD, I have been intuitively doing all the things that Dr. Gordon mentioned in the interview and on his website: moving, drawing, meditating, breathing, addressing my diet.
    But I have also found screaming helpful for dredging up old hurts so they could be dealt with. Thankfully I came across a great voice coach who’s helped me learn to do this safely and somehow it evolved into death metal screaming which brings us to… laughter! Lots of it. Probably the best medicine after all. 😄🤘🖤

    • teamforleo

      Hi Cristina,

      Yes, laughter is the best medicine! Thanks for sharing with the community.

      -Antoinette

  28. Anita Love

    I almost skipped over this video, thinking it irrelevant as I’m not currently struggling with “trauma.” BUT… I realize we all experience mini-traumas along the trauma spectrum. Last week I received some alarming news about my daughter that has consumed many of my thoughts and hijacked my otherwise thought-full presence. I’ve become irritable, anxious, fearful and unhappy. Trauma? Not quite. Can these symptoms be mediated by Dr. Gordon’s techniques? ABSOLUTELY. I’m familiar with the deep-breathing, movement, and belly-laughter strategies, but wherever I find myself along the trauma spectrum, I usually forget these simple techniques in the moment. Dr. Gordon’s reminders are timely and worth revisiting again and again…and again! xo P.S. And bless YOUR hearts, Marie and Team. You are a treasure too!

    • teamforleo

      Hello Anita,

      So glad to hear that this episode with Dr. Gordan resonated with you!

      -Antoinette

  29. jude

    I went to his site (cmbm.org) but couldn’t find the info on shaking/dancing. Some help with this, please? Thanks so much.

    • teamforleo

      Jude,

      Dr. Gordan’s website is http://www.cmbm.org

      Give that a try! Thanks for listening to the episode.
      -Antoinette

      • jude goldenheart

        Found it! Many thanks!

  30. This is one that I will watch again and again. Incredible insight. Thank you x

  31. Carole'Diane Pace

    Hi Team Marie and Dr Gordon.
    I have only just watched this and oh boy, did it resonate with me! I found it so insightful and enlightening as I am going through so much “trauma” in my life and have been for a very long time, I am totally overwhelmed, the ill health, pain, suffering and every kind of emotion that one could possibly experience as discussed, so much so, I ended up having a heart attack December, which, quite frankly, I dispute.
    Several points “triggered” so many responses within me whilst watching this, but “dealing with the trauma whilst it’s happening”, really got me because this is something I cannot do. How does one possibly deal with such a traumatic heinous act of child abuse at the age of two, into adulthood, that I have carried around within my psyche all my life? I have suffered ill health and abuse all my life, I am writing a book about it, I journal, I am very aware, do yoga, mindfulness and meditation read so many books, listened to so many expert speakers and tutors, and have found ways to cope and all I have ever wanted is to help heal others. After all, I have so much experience of it.
    My Soul purpose has always been to help others to heal from trauma’s and abuse, to become survivors and not victims, but my trauma still lies within me, I always attract yet more abusers into my life, I am a Psychic Intuitive yet still go against the “red flags” and end up getting hurt over and over again! I know what it has done to my body, literally, and how it has all affected me, my digestive system, my mind, body, spirit and soul are all out of alignment and I am constantly drained with the fatigue this causes, cannot concentrate, lost interest in my hobbies, am a photographer, that sometimes I am now beginning to feel I am getting short term memory loss.
    My whole psyche is affected and am alone and I have lost everything and everyone I love, including my beautiful rescued dog (who was poisoned by an ex abusive partner) 3 years after I lost my long term Soulmate (who I nursed 24/7 at home until he died in my arms of cancer).
    I am still carrying all that trauma, the constant sobbing, the loneliness, the fears deep within me and cannot release it no matter what I try or what I do. I have written to you before because I am struggling to get my book published, or even find a publisher interested in my true, heart felt story of such a horrendous, dastardly act of abuse.
    So this podcast was one of the best, I felt like you were talking about my life, how I am as a person, an Empath, who’ll do anything to help others heal from trauma and insecurities and anxieties, but no one helps me and I am alone in this constant fight to get my story out there to help others, but remain in a constant state of “fight or flight” whilst trying to do it. I cannot find that Peace that you talked about which has eluded me all my life, only when I know I have helped others, do I feel a sense of freedom and gratitude for all I have gone through that has made me the person I am today, given me the gifts to enable me to help others, yet not help myself. I will not rest, cannot rest or find that Peace until I see my book published, know how much I have helped others, see it for myself, will I be at Peace. So although everything you both talked about and the book (which I intend on buying instantly) smacked me hard as my life story, I still cannot stop or silence the inner chatter, the trauma, the memories, the pain and suffering I experienced that’s buried within me and destroying my own being. How do I find healing within myself because I cannot go back and deal with the “trauma whilst it was happening” and has happened so many times throughout my life. I am a strong, stoic, determined, independent woman with a purpose to help and heal others and I know what would help me to heal myself, but I do not know who will help me along that path to Enlightenment and Freedom. Do you? Loved the podcast, love you Marie and Marie Forleo Team. Brilliant work and podcast. I dream of being in your shoes to be able to speak up to the world, to help and heal others and in doing so, help and heal myself. How do I get there?? I still need help, a Sponsor, a Tutor, someone who believes in ME!! Someone who shares my dreams and goals and will help support ME to succeed. I am worn out trying to do this alone. Yes, best moving and so appropriate podcast that really me, hit me hard, moved me to tears and laughter but still not silenced the voice within that I want, need, to succeed and I want to heal and find the Peace that you both exude. Lots love Marie and Dr Gordon and thank you for all your wonderful podcasts, your infectious enthusiasm, joy and energy even though you (like so many others) have your own insecurities and fears that you channel so successfully into helping others. Much appreciation, gratitude and a huge Thank You Marie. Love you x

  32. Maria

    Marie. You are amazing as always. This talk on trauma 💝
    ❤️❤️❤️

  33. This wrapped me in sucha warm hug with so much real, gentle, and even playful approach to reviewing our trauma. Will be ordering the book. What a lovely human. Thank you Dr. Gordon for some well-spoken processes to help me finally feel empowered to heal 🌟💖 and thank you Marie, thank you for hosting this. I’ll be listening to this on repeat for awhile 🙏

    • teamforleo

      Mary, warm hugs are some of our most favorite things! We love it when what we create can do that for members of our community. Thank YOU for watching and sharing your thoughts with us. – Heather

  34. JOHN Brown

    Thank you Marie and Jim, Truly Beautiful… Healing is a choice… a never ending journey to become more self aware for one to life at your highest potential! Learn, grow, Ask for more;
    Blessings,
    John

    • teamforleo

      John,

      So glad that this episode with Dr. Gordan resonated with you!

      -Antoinette

  35. Kimberley Jackman

    Loved this episode! It truly spoke to me. About traumas being all kinds, not just one extreme or another, that we will at some point suffer trauma & that’s OK. Its what we do with it that matters! I thoroughly enjoyed the gut biome talk, foods & supplementation. SO POWERFUL! I will be sharing with my family, friends and followers!🥰
    Thank you!

  36. Love, the tips and techniques. Was just going through some personal trauma. Thanks for sharing.

  37. Helen

    What a wonderful conversation – thank you both.
    This is a great reminder to return to the basics: Diet, Breathing, Movement, Laughter, and Dialogue. I appreciate the way he integrates indigenous and gnostic wisdom in his teaching. This stuff isn’t complicated, or new, but it is a practice and it is a choice. Sometimes, making that choice to heal is the hardest part – or perhaps even allowing ourselves to acknowledge our own “trauma” for what it is, an injury – to the body, the soul, the spirit – in order to heal… I hope that all who need this information will find it.
    Many thanks again 💕🙏🦋

    • teamforleo

      Such a great point Helen- it truly is a back to basics in so many ways. We’re thrilled that this was helpful. – Heather

  38. Another great conversation again. Thank you. Really learn a lot. 🙂

    • teamforleo

      Thanks so much for taking the time to watch it. – Heather

  39. Lana

    I loved this conversation so much! I’ve been working on healing my own traumas pretty much on the daily basis for the past 5 years using all of the techniques Dr. Gordon talked about in this video. I discovered them all separately from different sources and started practicing them because it felt like that’s what my body or my psyche needed at that time purely on intuitive level. And recently I’ve been thinking more and more about wanting to work with other people to help them heal. Two days ago a close friend of mine randomly told me that that’s what I should be doing (which I recognized as a tiny sign from the Universe). And yesterday and today I’ve been pondering where/what kind of training I could get without studying to become a doctor. So watching this conversation just now feels like synchronicity (which makes me super excited and wanting to write this long comment :). I look forward to learning more about CMBM’s programs and hopefully studying with them in the near future to help others heal. Thank you Marie and Dr. Gordon! Love and appreciate you both 🙂

  40. Thanks so much for this! I especially loved the journaling tip. It is incredibly powerful, writing helps me a lot when I am dealing with some stressful stuff. The best part of it is that it is free and accessible to anyone. A very efficient way to deal with hardships if you can’t go to therapy.

    • teamforleo

      Kate,

      Yay for you friend! Glad you enjoyed the episode with Dr. James Gordan!

      -Antoinette

  41. Kathy

    I recommend T. Colin Campbell’s books for those of you who are interested in excellent nutrition. Thank you.

  42. Hi Marie,
    I have been suffering from trauma from my childhood with my father beating up my mother and myself.
    The trauma of being married for 22 years and getting divorced and having to pay alimony to my ex which I can’t even afford although I’ve never missed a month.
    I also have an addiction (I’m in recovery). I feel so stuck, I spent a lot of money trying to leave the corporate world and be an entrepreneur, I created a youtube channel but couldn’t do it for the lack of clarity and I feel it’s greatly to do with the trauma that I’ve been through.
    Can you please help
    yours hurting
    Uri

  43. Lily Iatridis

    Thank you! I loved this episode and Dr. Gordon. I didn’t even realize I had my jaw clenched until the last ten minutes, when I finally exhaled and noticed what I had been doing. Going to start with the new journal prompts asap.

  44. Hi Marie!
    This is such an important conversation! You guys talked about tools that everyone can do right now to improve our mental health and relationships. Thank you!
    One of the best episodes of Marie TV.

    Love,
    Joana

  45. Felicitas

    Wow… this video! ufffff…. I loved how they both started laughing out loud… so contagious, they made me laugh sooo much!! The part where they both talk about the diet for trauma and Marie shared a bit of her own journey with food she is no longer choosing to eat, I loved it because I am on that journey (no refined sugar nor flour, etc) and just had to share… I feel AMAZING! It works. Anyway, incredible content as usual. Big Fan!

  46. Thanks so much Marie and Dr.Gordon for a very insightful interview!

  47. Excelente, me ha encantado. Muchos ánimos.

  48. Tatiana Kochetova

    I’m going to shake my body right now and I will try to do it every time I feel angry. Usually my son starts laughing when he saws me shaking. That’s why I can stop my anger reaction and be a better mom.

  49. Wow, Thank you Marie and Dr. James for this wonderful conversation. I may not have a long comment but I want to say that I appreciate this kind of conversation or topic. God bless to the both of you. 🙂

  50. Sarah

    I am listening now as I just experienced witnessing two deadly car accidents within exactly 7 days of one another, the second being just yesterday. I can’t get them out of my head. And, I realized I don’t know how to take care of myself having experienced this trauma. I don’t know what to do. I hope this gives me some help.

  51. Ahhg, I love this kind of topic. Thanks for sharing this one and uploading. 🙂

  52. I really thank you for the valuable info on this great article and look forward to more great posts.

  53. Creece Rubia

    Thank you Marie for this amazing episode with your guest Dr. Gordon.
    My greatest take away is…
    I love the creative part of making dialogues with our own emotions and feelings that’s causing us to freeze. And since I’m a frustrated journalist, as you said it’s doable and easy. So I will apply that to my repertoire of self-care. I will start to write conversations with my emotions in dialogue form. I can even modify the characters as my limiting beliefs to confront and liberate myself from those. I hope top end the dialogues with me laughing out loud! That would be deep and full of discovery about my internal, innermost resources to survive and thrive in these challenging times and would open my heart in facing others more positively and authentically.

    • teamforleo

      Creece,

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts and takeaways from this episode with Dr. Gordan. We are honored that you are a part of our community!

      -Antoinette

  54. Leona

    What an incredibly inspiring interview!! I have been a fan of Marie for years, and this fell into my lap at the perfect time, as it usually does! Thank you Marie, I am always excited to incorporate the knowledge I learn from you and/or the people you connect with into my own life as well as into the lives of friends, family and any audience that will listen. This will be transformative for so many… now I have to go! I have a message to deliver 😉
    Leona

    • teamforleo

      Hi Leona,

      So glad you enjoyed this interview with Dr. James Gordan!

      -Antoinette

  55. This conversation has been a great help to me. I will tell to my friends so they can watch it. Thank you so much.

  56. Very nice!

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