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Last week, I messed up. I disappointed people I care deeply about, and people who look up to me as a role model. I made the mistake of silencing the voices of the Black students in my program’s FB group that needed to be heard during this time of deep pain following the horrific deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and countless others.

Instead of creating a safe space for them to express their hurt and pain, I chose to temporarily close commenting without attempting to understand their point of view. 

I take full and complete responsibility for my mistake. I was 100% wrong. 

While we had guidelines in place about the type of posts and comments that are acceptable, our core values are rooted in kindness, compassion, and respect and I didn’t uphold those ideals. The fact is, Black people cannot separate their business from their race or any other aspect of their lives. Any business that has people of color as customers has a responsibility to acknowledge, respect, and embrace that. 

At the time, I had two glaring blindspots:

  1. Wanting to protect myself, while also having the privilege to pause thinking about race if I choose to do so.
  2. Not setting up my team to moderate online discussions on anti-racism. I hadn’t done that important work yet.

That’s white privilege. 

That’s unconscious bias on my part. 

Over the weekend, a number of Black women put time and energy into calling me in and educating me about these blindspots. I sincerely thank you. I didn’t know what I didn’t know, but you began to open my eyes. And for that, I’m grateful.

I finally did what I should have done at the beginning: I shut up, surrendered, and let go of my defensiveness.

That’s when things began to crack open. 

Where I Stand

One lesson that’s emerging from this time is the importance of stating and restating my values. So let me be crystal clear where I’m at on these issues. 

  • I stand in full support of the Black community and the Black Lives Matter movement. 
  • The U.S. criminal justice system needs a complete overhaul. It’s a racist system designed to protect white people and put Black people behind bars.
  • White privilege, white supremacy, and institutionalized racism must be dismantled now. As white people, it’s our job because we created this problem. Inequality exists because of us. We have to wake up, speak up, and get to work.
  • Economic, educational, housing, voting, and health inequalities that negatively impact marginalized communities, and specifically Black communities, must be made right. The playing field is not equal, and it never has been. Enough is enough.
  • I don’t care about losing followers or customers who want to blather on about “all lives matter” or pretend that they “don’t see color” or want to argue “reverse racism.” 

The Actions We’re Taking Now 

We will:

  1. Train our internal team to actively combat racism, with ongoing reinforcement training. This is a long-term initiative.
  2. Overhaul our management, leadership, and hiring practices to recognize bias and increase the number of Black people on our team.
  3. Prioritize the health and wellbeing of our team, especially our Black team members. That might mean resting, having conversations, supporting each other, being there for family — whatever they need.
  4. Actively remove people from our FB community who participate in racist behavior and dialogue.
  5. Award at least 50% of our scholarships to businesses owned by BIPOC.
  6. Use our platform to feature, elevate, and promote more Black experts, authors, and creatives. 
  7. In current and future training programs, we’ll amplify Black-owned businesses and elevate their voices, visibility, and success.
  8. Make a $50,000 donation to Color of Change.

This is our action plan as of right now. I’m sure it will evolve as we learn, grow, and work closely with our community and team. 

We’re also having a lot of tough, but valuable conversations in the FB group. We’re connecting on a level that, frankly, we’ve never connected on before. We’ve instituted office hours to facilitate constructive conversation. I’ve been in the comments connecting, listening, and learning.

We’re sharing ideas and suggestions to make our community a safe place where everyone, but specifically Black people, can feel seen, heard, and understood. It’s a messy process doing this with over 30,000 people. There are a lot of disagreements. But we’re committed to growing forward together. 

We want that growth to be rooted in respect, love, and justice. 

They say that within any crisis lies great opportunity. I believe myself, the people of this country, and the world are embarking upon one of the greatest and most profound learning experiences and transformational shifts of all time. 

This Is A Marathon, Not A Sprint. 

There’s no getting back to business as usual.

We can’t quickly “do the work” and claim victory. 

We can’t unpack deep-seated, unconscious racism and undo injustice and discrimination in a weekend. 

This is not about attending an inclusivity webinar. Or watching a particular movie. Or reading a single book. 

There is no list of “The Top 5 Anti-Racist Actions” to add to your morning routine. 

Don’t look for a set of boxes to tick off and declare, “Well, we did that! Let’s move on!”

Change won’t happen overnight, but it will happen. It’s already happening. We need to come together and build long-lasting solutions that get at the root of these problems. This is an important journey that we’re going to take together. 

My focus right now is on my community and my team. 

This is where I caused the most hurt and this is where I must focus my efforts. Please know that work is being done in the background (it never seems to happen fast enough at times like this) that you will see rolled out over the weeks and months ahead. 

This is an awakening. This is an opportunity to take what I’ve built for 20 years and use it to do more good in the world than perhaps I’d ever imagined. 

Now, there’s one more important thing I need to say. 

Dear White People, Do Not Defend Me 

Anti-Blackness is so utterly pervasive, most of us can’t see that it exists — especially in ourselves. When we’re willing to see it, it’s uncomfortable. It’s disorienting. It can unleash a torrent of emotions like shame, denial, grief, regret, anguish, anger, guilt, and profound sadness. But being uncomfortable and sitting with that discomfort is required for real growth and lasting change. 

Spend your energy actively listening to Black people and other people of color right now. Listen to their stories. 

I invite you to learn alongside me. To begin the education process of becoming an anti-racist in every sphere and scope of your life. Then, you must commit to action. 

Bold, risky, imperfect, unrelenting action.

To everyone reading this right now, whatever your race or ethnicity…

With my whole heart, let’s find ways to create a fair, just, and equitable world together. 

There is no going back, there is only forward.

With enormous love and respect,

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  1. Vivi

    Hi. I’m not on Instagram nor Facebook. I’m from South America and just came to the blog to see if there was a post today and found this.
    I know about what’s happening in the world but can´t understand what happened here.
    If someone can help me understand please. I hope this doesn´t just get addressed in Facebook and Instagram.
    I’m a B-schooler as well, but most of all a Marie TV follower. Please bring some light to the blog as well. Lately there’s too much noise in social media and not here where is the most valueable for all of us to read.
    I hope anyone who got hurt starts to heal. I don´t know what to say. I don´t know what happened.

    • Tammy

      Hi Vivi
      Marie did this,
      “Instead of creating a safe space for them to express their hurt and pain, I chose to temporarily close commenting without attempting to understand their point of view.”

      A discussion started in the comments about racism that Marie shut down. As she says above, She was wanting to protect herself, while also having the privilege to pause thinking about race if she chose to do so. She didn’t set up her team to moderate online discussions on anti-racism. She hadn’t done that important work yet.

      That is what Marie is saying she has done. And it’s just plain unacceptable, and really points out why we (white people) need to really pay attention to our white privilege.
      My first thought is to defend her, she does so much for the world that it hurts to see her make a mistake, and I’m so proud of her for not wanting that.
      Yup, Marie messed up. Let’s use it as a wake-up moment and check our own actions!!

      • Vivi

        Thank you Tammy I didn´t understand why she had closed the comments.
        Hard conversations need to happen. And intolerant people should not be accepted.

        • Shyloe Fayad


        • Barbara

          So Vivi, you’re saying that you’re intolerant of intolerant people? We may all go much further by accepting each other’s shortcomings… 🙂

          • Vivi

            Nope. I just said intolerance should not be accepted. Thats not being intolerant. We can all think different and I tolerate that. But dont accept attitudes that think their truth is the only truth. Not in my life at least. I’m not going to chase anybody with anger. Thats the kind of thing intolerant people do. Live and let live.

          • jeannie

            Thank you. I never really liked the term we are “tolerant” of others. It sounds negative as in “I “tolerate” you”. I much prefer to be “accepting” of all. As you said to be “accepting” of each other, shortcomings and all.

          • Tiara

            Of course I’m intolerant of intolerant people, Barbara! As we all should be. That’s the point. To tolerate others is the lowest acceptable rung on the ladder. Below tolerance is rejection, restriction, oppression, dehumanization, all the way to murder and genocide. If whites can only manage “tolerance,” it’s not good enough, but it’s a start. To strive for something better, is to respect, learn, value, and even celebrate. When someone is on the wrong direction in the continuum, we should call them out – it’s not acceptable.

    • Colette Nichol

      Hey Vivi! The main thing that happened is that MF closed down the comments on the private Facebook page for B-schoolers. This was done originally because MF and team didn’t want to work the weekend to moderate comments about racism and racial bias and the current political situation in the USA. The B-school group has a hugely diverse membership and for years many of the Black members of the group have felt like they were not seen and heard in the same way the white members were. People were obviously outraged when MF closed the comments on the group in the middle of one of the biggest American awakenings/protests on racism. A lot of people were calling out MF and Team, leaving the group, vowing to never support MF again etcetera. There was a lot going on and still is. At this point, the comments are back on in the group and there are a lot of conversations going on about race and racism in business, politics etc. As well, there are the usual business posts. I hope this explanation helps!

      Note to Team MF: This feels like a good time to use the tool of “Yes, and!”
      Yes, I hope you do all of the above! AND I hope that you also plan to support and hire and be more inclusive of First Nations, people of Asian and East and Southeast Asian descent, people from Central and South America and Mexico, as well as people from the Middle East and Africa. There is so much racism and bias in North America against non-white people. Systemic racism is particularly prevalent towards Black and First Nations people in the USA (and Canada, where I’m from). But it leaves no person of colour unscarred. I think it helps all of us when we see a much more diverse community of people being represented. (Okay, well maybe I should just speak for myself—I crave hearing more voices from more cultures, particularly the voices of women.) I also hope that your reinforced vision will be inclusive of the LGBTQ2SIA+ community, particularly women of colour from that community. You have such a huge platform and can do so much good with it. I can imagine you get a lot of pressure to feature the big-name white males (and even the big-name white females) in the personal growth industry on your show. But I think it’s safe to say they don’t need more press. 🙂 They got that taken care of! Plus they can afford FB ads. I’m not saying I don’t want to see Liz Gilbert on the show again (obviously I do.) But the more diverse and wide-ranging the guests on the show the better, IMHO. Wishing you the best!

      • Empowerment by Latifa

        Amen to this Colette! I’m a WOC and unfortunately I saw some of my black B-school friends also leave the fb group after this happened. I know in my heart that though her intentions weren’t to shut anyone down, this f* up was also needed to finally open things up in this community and for her and others to be sort of smacked in the face with the privilege of why these actions hurt. It has truly opened up a discussion in the fb group that at times are really harsh and raw to read, are also so good for the growth that’s finally taking place. To think that as a WOC I still have privilege over my black brothers and sisters, it was so educational for me to read all the comments and posts in the fb group. Awareness is beauty and I’m activated as hell to do my part in participating in the discussion, and addressing my own bias to make change.

      • Vivi

        Thank you Colette, you answered exactly my question. I undestood that comments where closed but couldn´t understand why would they do it.
        I am white. I have no complaints. Here is South America we face racism too, but it varies from country to country.
        In Uruguay we do have a small population of black people, but they are not the only ones being discriminated. There is also racism against people from other countries as you just said so, specially poor countries. People are stigmatized, is terrible.
        I hope that people understand that there’s a system that needs to be broken. And to do so we need to take exceptional measures. It may be to privilege those who have been silence for some time, at least until the system breaks and we can all see ourselves for who we are, and not the color of our skin or country we were born.
        Its difficult to break patterns. It is even more difficult to spot them sometimes.
        I’m glad Marie and Team are taking action. There is a responsibility when you guide a community.

      • Shyloe Fayad


      • jeannie

        Thank you for your comment. You mention something I was also thinking. I would love to see more cultures promoted along with the Black culture. So many cultures have been hurt historically. The Native Americans thrown off their lands. Japanese were interred during WWII. The Jews in concentration camps. The Hispanic community now is being confined. And I am sure the list goes on. We have too many rich white men telling us how to live and breathe. It’s time we hear from other cultures and communities to enrich our lives by sharing theirs. Thank you.

      • Big hug. Thank you for your words.

    • Tiffany

      Thank you for being open to realizing your shortcomings and staying to e to your values even now, Marie. As a black woman, witnessing the defensiveness of white people who I admire has been incredibly painful. I was crying very hard this afternoon. But your message gives me hope that we can indeed meet each other on common ground. You have my respect. Thank you!

  2. Venessa Snow

    Thank you for telling your story. If we want to help, the first thing is to understand how we might be perpetuating it. Owning up to and understanding where you went wrong is the first step in the process and so many of us can take that example and lead by it as well. It’s a long road, but we can’t let it be just a moment in time, it has to be a work in progress. I will use your courage to speak out & do my own work.

    • What a beautiful shift this world is embarking upon.

      • Emerald

        COURAGE: To single out *black people* as a distinct group, separate from all other POC and marginalized groups. Until we let as many black people literally *breath* as other marginalized groups #Black Lives Matter must remain it’s own thing. If we’re speaking of everybody, we’re speaking of nobody (sound familiar?) Do. Not. fear. Addressing black racism specifically will not leave behind any marginalized group in the end. Counterintuitively, addressing black genocide first is the most expedient route to full inclusivity.

        • Emerald, you are 100% correct. Marie told us to focus, right? The mere suggestion that the conversation must include other POC is counterintuitive to what we are trying to accomplish in this particular moment in our nation’s sordid history. Even as a Black woman, I find I too include others when pointing out injustice. I love your call for courage because it really is necessary to listen, speak to, and advocate for Black bodies right now.

        • selby

          I am currently staying with someone who is actively involving herself in black lives matters, as she’s adopted a black daughter. However, I witness her own racism towards latinos, as evidenced by her relationship with her staff; cleaners, aupairs, and contractors.
          Just curious if you could clarify that you meant this liminal time is not the time to advocate, or have the conversation about other marginalized groups? Or if this is not what you meant, how do you support movements around being othered but not black?
          Thank you.

          • Eva Knox

            Hi Selby,

            I have some thoughts. As you know, we have collectively witnessed a rapid succession of harrowing incidents of brutal, gratuitous violence and murder of Black People, perpetrated by MANY members of a police system central to the structure of our society — whose stated mission is to “Protect and Serve” the members and communities of that society.
            Last week, Brendon Burchard described something called the “exclusion fallacy:” arguments against a point that is being made because the speaker did not cover other topics that may be related, but were separate from the point being made. #BlackLivesMatter is making the point that black lives matter, and now is the time for community and thought leaders to join in. I agree with Emerald that “addressing black genocide first is the most expedient route to full inclusivity.”
            In the US, because of our economy originally being established on Black slavery, and the 400+ years of ensuing legislation and institutional conspiracy to keep Black People disadvantaged in every way, the darkest skinned people are the recipients of the most intense prejudice. The practices of public lynching etched a deep wound in our cultural psyche, and we as a culture are all unconsciously and subconsciously conditioned to react with suspicion to a dark skinned face. When we as a culture reverse that conditioning and no longer have an unconscious, subconscious, or conscious bias against the darkest skinned faces, we will have come a long way if not healed the negative reactions to other colored faces as well.

        • Karlene Cameron

          Emerald, I agree with you!

        • Truth

          Amen! Listening is extremely important. Blacks have their own experience so do Latino/a etc. And there are over laps but the overlap is not the issue here. It is Black Lives that is the crisis here. “POC” is too safe for many even some Black people.

          Well stated. You hear and see me. I feel safe w/ you. I trust you. I have access. You have access. We can progress together and apart. We love each other.

        • Ani

          What you wrote was full of diamonds in value to all! In America in particular, if the black disparities are healed and fixed then any POC or any other “minority” group will benefit by default.

          And to MF or any other white American, who makes the gut wrenching no turning back conscious decision to sit at the black table to listen and to be apart of the resolve of what we were ALL birthed into, then this is when we can truly see MLK’s dream start to take root for future generations to truly live out.

          Thanks for choosing to be an ally Marie, I appreciate it ✊?

        • @Emerald, you are a wise soul. What you said, “Counterintuitively, addressing black genocide first is the most expedient route to full inclusivity.” is truth

      • Linda


  3. I have been having lots of conversations. Here is my blog post about it:
    And this is one from the prior week.

  4. I’m so encouraged by the growth, change and conversations I see happening in the B-School community. When everything started I knew there would be a shake-up. I knew that how you chose to proceed would be what mattered most. As a leader it was up to you to set the tone. I’m grateful that what you’ve shown is a willingness to listen and grow. That helps others in the group do the same. Thank you Marie for living up to your ideals and for knowing that true ally-ship means being uncomfortable but going forward anyway. I’m looking forward to continuing my relationship with the B-School community and being part of the growth.

    • Marie Forleo

      Thank you for this note Sedruola. We are 100% committed to the discomfort and using what we got to support the real growth and change that needs to happen in every part of the world. Sending you enormous love. ?

    • Nikki H

      Agreed! I was extremely disappointed when I heard about how things were handled initially (I am not in B-School but heard from people who were really upset by it). It’s not easy to admit when a mistake has been made (ESPECIALLY when so many eyes are constantly on you), so I thank you Marie and Team for owning this mistake and making plans for change and progress in this area in the future. We are all watching, so please stick with your promises and help ‘be the change you want to see in the world.’
      Sending you love and encouragement from Mclaughlin, AB Canada.

  5. This was the most wonderful mail I’ve ever received in my in-box Marie.
    Thank you for your complete honesty!
    Much love to you and all people from May in Norway.

  6. Dom

    I really appreciate you for doing this work. Let your actions be an example for others to follow.

    • Joy


  7. I truly appreciate Marie’s clarity and transparency in sharing her process, owning her mistake/bias/blind spots (which is very educative by the way) and taking a stand. I’m expressing my appreciation not from a place of “evaluation” but from being in the same boat, trying to find my new way and not going back to the old “normal”. Thanks

  8. Dear Marie, team-Forleo, B-schoolers,
    I’ve watched the discussion, the messy-ness and the FB live (without commenting). I want to express how much I’m learning from you all, and I want to thank you for that! The transformation to listening & learning kind of leadership touches me deeply. They way you showed up, inspires me to the bone. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING THIS EXAMPLE!!

    • Team Forleo

      Thank you so much for being here with us, listening and learning.

  9. Sara

    In your White unlearning and anti-racist learning, please do not forget to include Indigenous peoples in your company’s commitment. Learn about it all. Black and indigenous lives depend upon it.

    • Janet

      Thank you for sharing this link, it’s so important.

      Too often, I hear people pretending Canada doesn’t have a problem because our problems are not the same as our neighbours to the south. Our system also has a long history of racial trauma and we are only beginning to unpack it. I hope we can use this time to learn and take action in our communities.

  10. Mindy

    Thank you for those amazing words-you gave words to where I am finding my struggles to express. This especially resonated with me “The fact is, Black people cannot separate their business from their race or any other aspect of their lives”. I don’t follow you because I have a business, I work in higher education. I have been attending some virtual protests by our students. I have a falsely assumed that we had a diverse & equitable safe space for our students of color. I was shocked to listen to our students talk about their overwhelming exhaustion by just what it takes to walk into a classroom or across campus. They talked about the amount of energy they have to put into how they communicate in order to make sure others feel safe bc of the color of their skin is perceived unconsciously as a weapon. I thought a safe space meant race doesn’t matter, as I am learning we are not there yet. But I believe and want to get there, and I accept your invitation to learn along with you. #notgoingbackonly forward

    • Mindy, yes it is amazing to us “melatonin challenged” people. I always thought I understood since, being a woman, I have been marginalized in school (in the 60’s and 70’s) and in my subsequent office jobs. I am still getting an education every time I confront blatant racism. I thought I was doing good because I would become shocked when moving to the south and witnessing the obvious racism right in your face.

      What I wasn’t getting was the subtle racism that is in about every system in our country. And also in me, in the sense of being naive about the subtle forms that I couldn’t begin to understand. And so I listen and support the movement. And look forward to discovering how I can do more and better.

      Peace and love from Tucson AZ.

      • G.

        FYI, it’s melanin, but I get it.

        • Oh well, did I mention I’m a blonde too? And over 60 YO brain. Thanks for the correction. Melanin, melanin, melanin … I shall work on remembering that. I take melatonin to sleep so I guess my brain just inserted it. Good thing someone has a grasp of language here.

  11. Hi Marie,
    I’ve followed you for quite some time and I admit I was shocked, surprised and hurt when I discovered that you silenced the voices of those in B-School on your FB Platform. As a black woman and knowing many of my friends who have enrolled in B-School I would have never thought this would be allowed in your community. With that being said, this post I can see the genuineness and sincere misinformation you had. I as a black woman am too looking at my bias and allowing people to make mistakes, namely white people, and admit their wrong. As a Believer in Christ, forgiveness is always available. So for that I want to say thank you for this statement, your willingness to understand, get it right and acknowledging the privilege you have. Thank you for your apology and the effort to continue to move forward in the right light. God Bless 🙂 #BlackLivesMatter

  12. Thank you ever so much for your thoughts, feelings and actions shared in this redemptive post, Marie. I can only respect and trust you. X

  13. Thank you for listening Marie! And for admitting your mistakes, blind spots and specifically touching on not needing the defense of white people, which just compounds the pain already being felt at this time for black people. I look forward to seeing the changes that will take place in our B school community in the months ahead!

    • Marie

      Thank you for what you shared Carla. ?

  14. Here is a link to recording of a webinar I attended:
    Leading Social Transformation: The Inner Work of Racial Justice
    “Justice is Love in action for the alleviation of suffering” (Rhonda Magee)
    Reading her book too.

  15. Mary Brown

    What I know, what I heard, what I learned (My Reflections from last week)
    I had been involved in many conversations this past week about racial injustice. People are rallying to the cause and many resources have been posted. It’s great, but honestly it has been overwhelming. Here are some things I heard, I learned, or I know.
    I read “It’s not the job of black people to educate you, it’s your job to educate yourself. They are going through their own pain and grief”
    I have seen and heard many book recommendations.
    Then I heard “Why are you going to read a book, just talk to me”
    I heard “I don’t think this conversation belongs in the workplace”
    I heard “Our leaders need to do more, this does belong in the workplace”
    I think my company’s leaders are doing a good job. I am giving compassion to my company’s leaders, because this is new to them. I heard from a white colleague who didn’t share that view with me. I heard from a black colleague who did share that view with me. Sure, racism isn’t new but this sudden uprising and crisis is. The important thing is that they are talking about it and are taking meaningful action.
    I heard “A lot of people are rising up and acting now, but we have to make sure it continues”
    I heard “I don’t know what to do because I haven’t experienced it, I can’t relate”
    I heard “I want to have the conversation, but I am afraid I am going to say something wrong” but this person did open and lead a forum for conversation.
    I had a conversation with someone, who hasn’t experienced much racism.
    I had a conversation with someone who has experienced much racism.
    I had a conversation with someone who experienced situations where it was like they were invisible.
    I had a conversation with someone who has had blatant comments made to them in the workplace; it wasn’t reported; but the ignorance and lack of awareness was shocking.
    I heard “You are one of only two people who have reached out to me”
    I heard “We can speak up, but we may not be heard, we need you to speak up” I learned the word “Ally”
    I heard “As long as you are genuine”, people will talk with you.
    I heard the best thing you can do is Educate.
    I am seeing that whether you want to do something or not is now causing a divide. I am even seeing some self-righteousness. This distresses me.
    It’s been interesting to hear different people’s opinions and perspectives.
    Not every white person is ignorant. Not every white person is racist.
    Not every black person has the answers. Not every black person wants to talk.
    You can’t do everything. This change won’t happen overnight. There is no magic bullet.
    I am trying to pick a few things that I want to do, to start to make a difference.
    I am talking to people, I am connecting with people, I want to learn how to be a good ally.
    I started one book “How to be an Antiracist”. My 2nd book will be “The Inner Work of Racial Justice: Healing Ourselves and Transforming Our Communities Through Mindfulness”
    If you don’t know how to reach out, this is what I said:
    “I am thinking of you, and am recognizing that you may be having a difficult time; and if there is anything I can do to support you, please let me know. Also, I would like to offer whether you are comfortable having a conversation? I read an article that said “it’s not black people’s responsibility to educate you, it’s your responsibility”, but I have heard from a couple people that they don’t mind; that they would prefer to talk and connect. If you are open to conversation, let me know. I would like to know you and your story.”
    Come from a genuine place of connection. I went into it making sure I focused on the person I was talking with. Hearing them, Seeing them, Actively listening to them, Connecting with them.
    My intent was to get to know them, to hear their story. At the end of conversations, if it seemed right, I asked what I could do.
    We have to be ok with being uncomfortable, or learn to be. It’s ok to say “I don’t know”…then follow it with “but I want to learn”
    And always lead with respect, kindness and compassion.
    I am not sharing this to say “Hey, look what I am doing”. I don’t have all the answers. I am sharing because it might help you. It might stir conversation. It might inspire you.
    Many people are abhorred by the rioting and looting. I am too. I am not condoning violence. But…I have read that this is an emotional release for some people, from pent up anger, frustration and stress. It helps you understand it from a different perspective. I also read that in history, nothing was done unless rioting or looting happened.
    Peaceful protests bring people together for a common cause and garner attention, but the rioting and looting sparked outrage, got more media attention, and got more people talking. And in appears, more action is happening.
    Pay attention, speak up, connect, listen, let people know you care.
    Educate. Act. Engage. Stand Together.

    • Annette

      Mary, Thank you so much for sharing all of this. I have been struggling with deep emotions about this and having difficulty putting my own thoughts and feelings into words. I appreciate yours. I may be quiet, but I am educating myself/learning, engaging on a new level, and standing with and holding space for people of color.
      I’m also grateful to MF and team for this forum for learning, growth, and change.

  16. This is a marathon, not a sprint. It is important, valid and appreciated to admit mistakes, course correct and commit to change. I would love to see the process play out publicly because the front-facing examples will help other entrepreneurs, business owners and allies in this long, ardous process of dismantling institutionalized racism.

    • Team Forleo

      Thank you so much for chiming in, Jovanka, and we totally agree with you. Seeing the learning happening in real time is so important to help others learn too. Thank you for sharing your voice with us.

  17. Marie, you always inspire me to be a better human. Thank you for being a leader to leaders. When I saw you on that stage in New York for your book launch, your heart’s mission was just so abundantly clear. What came through for me was I saw a woman who beyond anything else was there to LEAD people who will LEAD others to further humanity. This post sharing so deeply about our collective white privilege is exactly what so many of us needed to see. You’re shining a light so bright in time where people need it more than ever.

  18. This is what an ally looks like! I jumped on to the Facebook group and was not shocked but heartbroken at the ‘all lives matter’ type responses. It’s difficult navigating a world as a racially Black, ethnically Latinx woman. I shouldn’t have that experience in the virtual spaces I voluntarily choose to participate in as well. I appreciate your transparency and clear action items, which are sorely lacking in many of the accounts, businesses, and personal relationships I cherish. I look forward to the growth and long road ahead. Thank you!

    • Team Forleo

      Hi Eileen…we are so sorry that the group space felt so heartbreaking and we completely understand why. We’re committed to making that space better, especially for those that have felt silenced. Thank you for being here with us as we grow and change.

  19. Thank you Marie.
    I am in a similar place of white privilege, and have my own blind spots, and I honor your hard work of shining a light on yours.
    As a Course in Miracles student, I have studied that I can choose to see the Innocence in everyone, or see their guilt. What I see in others is what I will experience in myself.
    Marie, I see your innocence in this moment.
    I see the innocence in George Floyd, in this moment.
    I am asking for Spiritual help, to see the innocence in all my sisters and brothers.

  20. Anje Collins

    Girl bye! Save your apology! You got caught and your first mind is your right mind. You are cancelled and I’m going to spread the word of your fake apology.

    • Sue T.

      Disagree. As a white person, I’m learning from this. If you screw up, don’t be defensive; apologize sincerely, make a concrete action plan for change, and then make sure you will be held accountable.

      • sherry

        I think what is so profound for me is that it took 13 DAYS to respond!!! Timing is something I know Marie has taught on and for a long apology after 13 DAYS, she allowed 13 DAYS of hurt, 13 DAYS of disrespect, 13 DAYS with the appearance of disregard for humanity, 13 DAYS of publicity backlash, 13 DAY of silence while her PR team crafted a statement, 13 DAYS of posting about everything but this HISTORIC moment that she can never redo, and a LIFETIME of “what did Marie Forleo say/do during this historic moment as a business leader.
        While I hope the apology is heart felt and not mere PR, the proof in action not postings as this point will prove point.

        • G.

          I agree. It speaks to integrity. I can’t help but think of Maya Angelou’s quote, “When they show you who they are, believe them.” I’m just so disappointed on how this all went down.

        • Marie

          Hi Sherry, thanks for your comment. A few important things. I don’t have a PR firm. I understand you may not be in our B-Schoolers group so you may not be aware of this, I wasn’t silent for 13 days. That’s just not factually true.

          We closed comments on Friday May 29th. A full apology was up on Monday (on Instagram and in our B-Schoolers FB group). Comments opened on Monday. I spent all of last week in our group, with our B-Schoolers connecting, learning, listening — video chats, calls, etc.

          Which brings us to today, Tuesday, when we typically publish content. ?

        • Andre

          Light to you Sherry. ✨??✨

  21. Thank you for this, Marie! It’s not always easy to do the right thing or to take ownership of your mistakes. You are an amazing leader! I’m also a B-schooler and absolutely love your work, energy and the ideals you hold true. Most of all, you’re a true inspiration.

  22. And THIS is why I love following and learning from you. You own your mistakes just as you tell your B-schoolers we should AND you help disrupt our thinking and bias, showing us other business owners a possible path to reflecting on our own business models to make meaningful, authentic, sustainable change that contributes to a better, more inclusive, kinder world. Thank you.

  23. Thank you. Your willingness to take responsibility, admit wrongdoing and learn is inspiring.

  24. SG

    I’ve bought all of Forleo’s programs and really appreciate the material and Forleo’s personality and essence! Yet, as glad as I am for the changes that are happening and are to come my heart does feel a bit shattered. A sense of trust has definitely been lost. My heart does feel a bit saddened at the different forms of silencing black voices and had these b-schoolers who identify as black did not say anything I’m afraid this would’ve continued. That honestly scares me and while I will always appreciate what I’ve learned and the laughs I’ve shared, from now on I will really be mindful of who and what I am “supporting” with my dollars. Because in 2020, and in any year for that matter, no voice should be silenced especially when those voices simply wish to see a better world.

  25. Kay

    Hi Marie and the Team,

    I thought long and hard about whether or not to post a comment to this post – clearly, in the end, I decided to 🙂

    First of all, let me start by saying thank you to you and your team for owning up to your boo boo. Mistakes present an opportunity to learn and grow – and yes, this growth opportunity is quite messy and painful – especially with 30K+ people and eyes.

    I’m a B-Schooler and I’m in the FB group, and I saw many of the comments.

    I’m also several other things – a wife, a mother, a black woman and the list goes on. I’m from Jamaica (and proud!) and I recently moved to the USA. I’ve personally experienced discrimination (not only in the US) owing to the colour of my skin and my nationality. In spite of it all, I try to press on. One of my greatest challenges now is teaching a 17, 9 and 2-year-old how to best navigate the current landscape.

    • Marie Forleo

      Hi Kay, thank you for what you shared, and for your comment. I am so sorry, not only for the hurt I caused, but for the larger continued pain. You have my word that we’re committed to using our heads, hearts and voices (and everything else!) to making this a more just world for you and your family. Sending you so much love ? and thank you again for adding your voice here.

  26. Bravo Marie. Thanks for being a real life example of when your words and actions match, and whst it looks like to gracefully accept responsibility and commit to forward movement. You’re even more of a hero to me now. I’m still in the building process but I’m even more invigorated to bring “that special gift that only I have” (especially as a black person) to the topic of money, and how vital it is to understand how to befriend it, manage it, and grow it in order to empower yourself and future generations. Chris Rock said it best when he said money gives you choices. All my love xoxo

  27. Dawn Engler

    Marie…I came across this statement in a new job and it struck me, so I’m sharing here…
    If you aren’t intentionally inclusive then you are unintentionally exclusive.
    Bless us all on this journey of growth, understanding and change.

  28. Yes!
    I am a white man.
    I have been complicit and caused harm.
    Now my heart and mind are open, and I’ve begun to dialog with my black friends at a deeper level than before – and to stand with them.
    I echo Marie’s charge to white people to step back, let down defenses, become vulnerable and real and realize that we are part of the problem – and to openly and honestly discuss and act for reform.

    Thank you, Marie, for stepping up and standing out.

  29. Sandra Edwards

    There are many aspects of Marie Forleo and her programs that I admire.

    However, there are two problems I see here now:
    1) White privilege (glad to see you are attempting to learn and grow beyond this), and
    2) Business elitism (something I was personally affected by in my first year as a B-Schooler, when my serious concern about misogynistic language by Marie was defended and minimized by B-School staff).

    To this day, I wonder if anyone even told Marie directly about the complaint I had made about the “D” word she used or if the company had a practice of just silencing issues under the blanket of “hip hop” style without the courtesy of even listening to the larger issues.

    All I know for sure is that both problems are disappointing, and yet there is always possibility for improvement. It would be good to see Marie and Marie Forleo programs continue toward a more positive direction.

  30. Kristina

    As a Black B-Schooler, I’ve been taken aback by the white and non-black people of color B-Schoolers who have dug in their heels and are choosing to be toxic and racist in the main group. I’ve decided for my well being that I’m stepping away for a while so the pruning and the healing in that group can take place. Marie has built an amazing business, provides amazing content and overall is an amazing person. She’s admitted the missteps and it’s good to see action is being taken to make B-School a safer and more inclusive environment for everyone. Hope to see you again soon and best of luck in the move ahead.

    • Marie

      Hi Kristina, thank you so much for what you shared here. We will certainly keep you posted as we make this very, very important and necessary steps. It’s long overdue. ?

  31. Amina Hassan

    Hi Marie and the team, I am so happy to hear this truthful message coming from your heart during this messed up time in history. As of Muslim Somali American, I am one of your fans and I don’t follow people based on their race or color but what they stand for and what they are contributing to this world to change lives of all humans and your were that for me. So, the fact that you realized that you messed up and going to make attempts to fix your blindspots is amazing. I am sure that all people of different cultures, religion and races have blindspots but it’s during this difficult times that we as a human beings take the time to assess ourselves and purify our inner biases. Thank you for taking the time to insure people like me that is raising four young third generation Muslim Somali Americans, that they will be raised in place where people are going to grow and learn to change old system that is still in place to exercise inequality.

    love you Maria, God bless you!:))

  32. Mary Pat Mengato

    Thank you Marie for being willing to listen, learn, admit your mistake, take ongoing action to create change, and for calling us all out to step up and discover our blind spots and begin to listen and make real changes in ourselves and in many systems. I admire you for doing this with such honesty, committment, and in the public arena. It is an inspiration for all of us to do so. Truly this is a turning point opportunity for the world, individually and collectively.
    Mary Pat Mengato

  33. Marie,
    Thank you for continuing to do the work. Time will tell if I can trust you again. I was one of the ones offering my time to help educate on anti-racism in your FB group (last year?) when I and others were silenced. So… time will tell if this silencing becomes a pattern as seeing this emerge again hurts. As an indigenous Latinx that donated a B-school scholarship to another Latinx starting her own coaching business, I feel very disturbed that this happened again when you made similar commitments to educating and training your moderators on anti-racism. So, know that I and other BIWOC alums will be holding you accountable to your commitments. I would like to see a follow up from you weekly over the next several weeks as you and your team do this work. This would help heal and rebuild trust.

    (sounds like ee-shell)

    • Marie

      Hi Ixchel, Thank you for what you shared. While I’m not aware of the specific comments you’re referring to, I can tell you that we’re here to do the work over the long-term. That’s unequivocal. Thanks again. ?

    • Kristin


      I agree with you and commented on another woman’s post. Silencing people has been Marie Forleo’s schtick for a very very long time. Only now did she get called out loudly enough to stop being so arrogant, at least for a moment.

      I agree she needs to follow up weekly, for the remainder of this year, at least, on action steps she is taking to help her community heal and to help this issue heal in general. It will and should take a long time for her to build trust with those she has oppressed through her own unwillingness to self examine.


    • @Ixchel. What a beautiful way to support and bring others up with you. Than you for modeling authentic, compassionate leadership. As a friend of mine says, “la lucha sigue.”

  34. Linda Crossley

    Marie, you never cease to inspire me…!

  35. Christina Josephs

    This experience has been eye-opening, and your words opened my eyes even wider. I’m sure I have unintentionally said things and acted in ways that may have been considered racist over the years, and I have never been confronted for it. I have always focused on my own struggles as a first generation, European-American woman–a child of immigrants. But I was always a white woman, and my experience cannot compare. I want to learn and understand more. These unfortunate events saddened and shocked me, deep down to my core, because I saw the truth, that we have not yet evolved to a harmonious society, after all the sacrifices made by thousands of people over the last one hundred and some years. I do not wish to see any more of these sacrifices, and that’s why change needs to come soon and fast!

  36. Angela

    A powerful share, as always! So many of us are learning to navigate this wild time, myself included, as a woman of mixed race but considered black. I am learning each day too, asking questions and being as available as my energy will allow to hear my friends who are seeking comfort and clarity around this challenging, yet potent, issue.
    I am grateful to read today’s share and to feel what you and your team have been expereincing. As a teacher and leader, I know how hard it can be to admit we’ve made a mistake, and at the same time knowing that this ability is what makes us stand out, which allows others to trust us even more! I want to know more, to hear more, and read more about what is happening at Team Forleo, so I will continue to listen, and continue to be inspired by what you are all doing to bring change into the world.
    Thank you!!!

  37. As you said, it’s a marathon, not a sprint. I am happy to hear that you will be leaning into the discomfort and allow yourself to grow. I am praying for you and the team as you make the changes necessary to follow through on your promises.

  38. heidy Tejeda

    MARIE, I hope your words and actions are as authentic as they sound
    because it will help us all heal eventually.
    You mirror at lot of people and I hope
    you continue to do so…Its time for a shift, not just words but awareness
    I’m proud of you taking responsibility and making your stand clear.
    At least we can all agree ZERO TOLERANCE TO Racism NOW.
    this includes all minorities…with an emergency VOTE for BLACK people
    due to the recent MURDER of GEORGE FLOYED in NATIONAL TV by
    a representative of Law enforcement DEREK CHAUVIN while another 3 cops watched it happened and did nothing.
    Mary, at least you can sleep at night knowing you took responsibility and you care about people.. that you are a HUMAN BEING before you are a business woman…
    you made made my day. Hugs

  39. Karen White

    Hello Marie and Staff,
    I recently completed the B-School program and to be honest, I wish I had not signed up for the program. Once I started the program, I felt like this was not the place for me. None of the live sessions had mentors that looked like me. As a black woman, I was truly disappointed. I felt like you were talking to a specific group, that didn’t include me.
    I’m not sure how many if any African Americans you have on your staff, but I hope you will do better do change this.
    As a black woman that is trying to start a business, I felt like everything in the program seemed so perfect, it didn’t seem real. There are real struggles with starting a business and even more so, when you are a black person. Not having my race represented was truly disappointing. I kept hoping that maybe I would see someone that looked like me, that I can relate to, but that didn’t happen.
    If I had to do it over again, I would not take the program for so many reasons.
    You don’t have to agree with me, no one does, but you should at least hear my voice. Don’t dismiss me. I’m not on Facebook, so I don’t see what others are saying about this and many other topics.
    I’m glad that you are now acknowledging your mistakes. I just hope that moving forward, you will come out of your comfort zone and really work hard to bring about positive change.

    • Marie

      Hi Karen. I am so sorry you’re disappointed and you’re right. We can (and we will) do much, much better.

      I’m 100% in for the road ahead and the hard work that must be done. We will be sharing updates as we make very necessary changes to the program. With enormous love and respect. ?

    • Sarah

      Thank you for sharing this, Karen. Backing you up & elevating this so that Marie & Team Forleo hear your experience & concerns! Sending you <3

  40. mohamed

    some people act at 2020 as they act 1820 ,if we realize that all US people has build its civilization also must be equal in their rights ,no matter of their skin color they are american citizen ,they establish together the american dream,not to kill them with cool blood , hope it come better soon.

  41. Bettina

    I commend you for your acknowledgment, touched my soul, and brought tears to my eyes.
    We are in a momentous change and I am so glad to be here learning, listening, evolving, and living at this time.
    I feel all our bubbles are bursting, veils of illusion lifting to live for REAL.

  42. Thank you, Marie, for this!
    In the midst of all this trauma (Covid-19 and then the hurt of the Black community), while there is a need for trenches, there’s also need for hospitals.
    We need a platform to express ourselves and fight, as much as we need a platform to heal.
    To me, the B-School FB group is always a place where I heal. A place where I can come together with likeminded people and crawl into myself and sit in a quiet, still, neutral space.
    That’s why, for me, your closing the comments was a breath of fresh air. While the entire Internet (and now we’re “confined” to the Internet much more than before) was flooded with hurt and tragedy, I felt that my shoulders dropped when I didn’t see that happening in the B-School community.
    Again, I’m not defending anyone but I do know that, like me, there are many other people.
    There are pages and profiles available for debate, but a group can rarely contain a discussion of this magnitude. Without damages to either its members or the community itself.
    Thank you for tempting to create an oasis of calm in the community.
    Thank you for turning around and changing your approach to allow the words that asked to be written.
    Thank you for your transparency and example, once again.
    With love, gratitude and respect,

  43. Terri

    Thank you Marie for this heart felt email.
    However, I don’t see why and what is wrong if you, or anybody else choose to close their own page/company/ … till one has a better understanding of what is going on.
    You are saying: “Prioritize the health and wellbeing of our team, especially our Black team members. That might mean resting, having conversations, supporting each other, being there for family — whatever they need.”
    Why do you have to “Prioritize .. and especially “?
    What about other race in your team? Why dose one race needs to be prioritized and specialized over others ? What is the true meaning of equality then ?
    Coming from my background, I know too well how dangerous the “ political correctness” can do to human brain and society.

    • Deirdre

      Terri – “equality” and “equity” are not the same thing, and we need to focus on equity at this time. Black people’s needs are being prioritized now because they are the ones who are (as a group) hurting most right now.

    • Kayaleya

      Terri, I’m not sure if you’re aware if everything happening in the US right now, but our Black community members are feeling deeply tender and hurting and rightfully angry in the wake of a tragic incident a couple weeks ago that has led to a massive uprising in the US and worldwide. Because of this, it’s a time to be especially caretaking of our Black community and to learn about how to dismantle racism in our day-to-day lives and businesses (which will benefit all people of color as well). I’m sure Marie’s team will prioritize other people on her team in times of need. But for right now, Black voices and hearts are front and center.

      • Kayaleya

        I should have mentioned these injustices have been repeated literally over and over again for hundreds of years. So this incident was just one more in an ocean of injustice. And finally, people are listening.

      • Terri

        Rightfully angry because Floyd is a human not because he is “ black”. Rightfully the involved police officers are being put on charges, because what they did , not because they are “ white”.
        If you believe there is different treatment for a crime in different way for different people. Then, well it is your country, be it !

    • @Terri, I agree that one should have control over their own page/company, in theory. One should also be prepared to deal with the fallout if there is a lack of compassion or communication in managing the members/followers/visitors and in this case, patrons.

      Imagine walking up to the door of a store that you have patronized for years (literally invested thousands) and finding the door locked. No warning that it would close. No signage to say what or why it happened, or if they will be back.

      One has the choice, but does that make it the right choice for future business?

      • Terri

        She only closed commenting part, not the Businese ( shop) for heaven’s sake !
        People, from now on, will stay far away from doing business in your country (never mind shops that can be looted, destroyed in the name of Rights), so they don’t have to be forced to take side for the fear of “future business” . Even remain silent is not politically correct here. What a negative of “ guilty white, victim black” environment.
        Nobody can beat USA from outside, but your guys bring your great country to its knees.
        Sad !

  44. Kirsty

    I appreciate your honesty Marie and your obvious desire to do better. By being so honest about all this you’re helping to shape and guide my responses too – I haven’t known what to do and spent most of last week shut down till this weekend when it all came out. Now I feel more able to engage with this I hope I do better too and I think you can help me with that.

  45. Shelby

    Hi Marie,

    I am a member of this year’s B-School Class. I thank-you so much for being brave enough to take a moment and pause and reflect on your own actions and white privilege. I was also born into white privilege, so I can understand how hard it is to acknowledge what we don’t know. That said, thank-you for your bravery in coming forward and making an apology. I think it will support other white people who were born with privilege to wake up and recognize what we have, and to take more action to support people of color. I appreciate your call to action to listen to stories. My mom dated two black men whom I became very close with growing up. Hearing their stories and watching how people would treat them differently changed me. I also am a psychotherapist now, and I use my platform to educate as much as I can, the importance of listening to each others stories. In listening and truly understanding anyone, including the great pain that black people have suffered at our own ignorance—it brings us together, it certainly has given me greater understanding for their pain, and what we need to do better as white people to foster inclusion, growth, and equality in our communities. We can acknowledge what we have contributed to, and while I have felt my own pain in acknowledging my own ignorances (that I just didn’t know what I didn’t know)…..I feel better in waking up to what I need to change. Thank-you for being brave and helping to lead the way, that we MUST do better than we have. #BLACKLIVESMATTER

  46. Bridget Morris

    I appreciate the “Dear White People, Don’t Defend Me”. I am not on facebook and learned of what transpired by another source. I went to Maria’s Instagram post and was just as upset reading comments that praised Maria for what she has done in the past and writing pacifying comments that only made the white privilege so apparent. Poor Marie, she made “a mistake, we love you, thank you, we’re here for you”. That is turning away completely from the social activism that is needed right now and letting your white friend know you love her and it’s ok, apology accepted. No! Dear White People, do the work, we don’t need to prop up white people any more. It’s going to be a long road but we (white people) need to stay on the anti-racist course with our foot on the gas. I’ve been a B Schooler for 10 years. I have appreciated the learning and hope the learning extends deep into anti-racism because Maria’s platform is huge and diverse and there is an opportunity here that should not be put on pause.

  47. Mosik

    I love you Maire, I really do! I nearly unfollowed you and unsubscribed because I saw little to no representation of people like me. I saw people who had the means to a degree to take advantage of B-School and everything else. Each time I came close, there was a new obstacle in my life I had to overcome. But I held on and kept reading every email that arrived on Tuesday’s because your heart never ceased to amaze me! Your heart is the kind of heart we, my community needs, more of. We know the privilege that white people have and all we are simply asking for is will you use that privilege to lift us up too, not a hand out, but a hand up. Stand with us at the bank to get approved, stand with us to get a home, stand with us for equal education, stand with us to fight the current day Jim Crow known as incarceration, stand with us!

  48. Sherry

    All I hear is “us”and “them”. More separation. I get that history has been harder on races of colour. What I don’t understand is why, with so many of us craving greater equanimity, we can’t move towards “we”. Instead of “especially” how about “as well”.

  49. This is freaking beautiful. OMG! WOW! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I want to hashtag everything you just said. Marie, THANK YOU! I am glad you can’t see my tears right now because they are flowing. This blog is everything.

    “There is no going back, there is only forward.”


    I am a bridge builder in the business community and I would love to be that for you and your leadership team. This truly means the world to me because my respect for you runs high and deep. Everybody knows I’m a B-Schooler and I want to continue shouting you from the mountain top even through the mess.

    Finally, your bravery to do the messy work is admirable. Listen, I’ve said it before, you can’t put together a 72 hour strategy plan and think it’s going to solve the problem because it won’t. It’s about moving differently for all the future B-Schoolers.

    I look forward to continue to serve. Leona Carter (AKA; the green glasses)

    • Marie

      Hi Leona. YES, and YES and more YES to everything you shared…especially this.

      “Listen, I’ve said it before, you can’t put together a 72 hour strategy plan and think it’s going to solve the problem because it won’t. It’s about moving differently for all the future B-Schoolers.”

      You have my word and my full commitment that we’re in this for the long-term. Systemic change doesn’t happen instantly, but it WILL happen with us working together.

      YOU are a gift to this world and our community. As you’ve seen in there, people are obsessed with your brilliance and heart. ?

  50. Michaela

    I wholeheartedly believe that keeping the dialogue open is important to move forward. It seems we are asked to have uncomfortable discussions which I couldn’t agree more with. For us living outside the US it may be hard to understand all the specifics, since people and police in Europe are not that heavily armed and weapons are really used as the last resort.
    However it seems that there’s a lot of divisive narrative going on, including the terms white privilege and white supremacy. I personally don’t find it helpful when suddenly it is ok to basically label a group of people inherently evil, ascribe collective guilt for the majority of historical injustices to all bearing a certain colour. Using terms like white supremacy was previously reserved for Nazi sympathizers.
    What it does is shut down dialogue and shut down even people who have been on the side of equality all along. Speaking even slightly differently is nowadays used as proof of racism, leads to shaming and name calling. We need to be able to have diverse opinions, thoughts and ongoing dialogue because when dialogue stops, what’s left is violence. If we can keep talking and not resort to pure tribalism, there’s hope.

    • Victoria

      Hi Michaela, I agree with you. Having grown up in Russia I will never understand all the intricacies of the subject matter. I’ve never even heard of the term “white privilege/supremacy” until I moved to NYC for a couple of years and that was recent. I never divided people into colours up until that point, but after having experienced plenty of hatred and verbal abuse because of my skin colour I now see the world as black and white…sadly.

      • Michaela

        Hi Victoria, Thank you for your comment! I grew up in communist Czechoslovakia and that’s why this bothers me. Some of the narrative sounds all too familiar to people who experienced totalitarian regimes. This part of history should be taught a bit more. People were tried for having different opinions, forced to admit their guilt as part of proving their allyship, people’s future education cancelled just because a member of their family happened to disagree with party politics. It all was done in the name equity.
        That being said I think what is different in Europe is the accessibility of free or relatively cheap education and healthcare for everyone, which makes a big difference. When you have these, you have equal opportunities. Of course it’s not perfect, but it’s decent starting point. Also, completely different relationship to gun ownership makes a difference. Police rarely use guns, so we don’t even see almost any reports on people killed by the police.

        • Victoria

          Absolutely. I should have said I grew up in Soviet Union for more clarification. Shutting down varied opinions seem totalitarian regime-y to me, especially because we all have different experiences and my experience is just as valid as that of any other human.
          I should also add that free and excellent education for ALL (which was what I experienced growing up) is the answer to many issues including police brutality, racism, gun violence or brainwashing someone into hating you based on your beliefs, religion or skin colour.

          • Michaela

            Exactly, it really makes all the difference if you can go a decent school without accumulating huge debt. I live in Finland now and students are supported even more than anything I’ve seen back home. Also healthcare system is available to all. Every single mom gets a maternity package with a lot of baby clothes and other necessities, so each baby, even from a poor family, has a decent start. And we can see where the taxes go. It’s not mostly military, that’s for sure.

  51. Marie thank you thank you thank you. I know this was not an easy thing to do, but I could sense how sincere you are. As a black woman I have admired you for years. When I heard what happened I was so crushed and all I could think was no not Marie. Like an earlier commenter put it we are called to forgive so I prayed on this situation and I am so glad to see what has transpired not only in what you’re saying, but I spoke to a friend of mine in Bschool and it’s really happening. Talk is cheap, but work is …work. So thanks for doing the work. Thank you for being willing to be a leader who is transparent, but more importantly not too BIG to still learn and grow as well. God bless you. #blacklivesmatter

    • Marie

      Hi Nicolya, your words are really powerful. I too prayed on this situation (and I still am) and that guidance from God changed everything.

      THANK YOU, sincerely, for taking the time to share your feelings here. I am a student for life, and this is the most profound and important educational journey one could ever hope to take. With enormous love. ?

  52. Hope Venetta

    As an African-American person, points #6 and #7 mean the most to me. Thank you for paying attention to the rest though.

    • Marie

      Thank you for your comment and letting me know this Hope! ?

  53. elaine dolan

    Seeing George Floyd be murdered on tape was for me, another straw that broke the camel’s back. It honestly reminded me again of how women are treated. Kind of incidentally…where domestic violence kills more women than stats will ever tell, and nobody turns a head. SHE is minimized, ignored, payed less than men. There was a murder a few years back (in Saudi Arabia?Pakistan? Egypt?) that I saw on FB probably, where a woman wearing a red garment was forced to her knees and then was shot in the head by a Muslim man…apparently because in wearing red, she was disrespecting HIM, the male Muslim. Nobody even followed through to discover if he was caught, punished, had to pay…it was like a snowflake melted, no big. I never heard her name!
    I can say this– I cried on viewing both videos, but who cares?
    Here is something that has only recently come to my ears–watching the 5G Summit with Josh Del Sol and a lot of amazing scientists who explained the dangers of stacking EMF’s –all Electro Magnetic Fields, but with an advanced warning about 5G added onto an overload of other kinds (Microwave ovens, Radio waves, Cell Towers, All SMART devices, our above ground power lines, WiFi at cafes and home and in school and at work, and SMART Meters on our homes. Now Elon Musk, Amazon and Apple are putting Satellites up…. OKOKOK–They are making us progressively more ill–all diseases!….and killing off bees and birds, etc. But here it is, my POINT: Because it is damaging our BRAINS as well, (and Males are the most vulnerable), they are becoming enraged, controlling, depressed, suicidal and the culture is encouraging narcissism (like the WH resident), this may indeed be what is happening………the degradation of an area in the brain where compassion and caring evolve. One of the scientist geeks says our brains are so degraded already that it may be too late to turn this around. Do you depend on your devices?

  54. Thank you, Marie.
    I’m also a B-Schooler and have been following what’s going on in the Facebook group intensely. I’ve learned so much from it. As a mixed-race person living in the UK, I’m no stranger to racism. But this past week has been a real eye-opener. How little did I know!
    It’s made me realise that racism as it’s practiced around the world, isn’t homogenous. My experience has been very different from those of BIPOC Americans. And my eyes have been opened to ordeals they face every single day which I don’t experience. I can’t begin to imagine the hurt they’re feeling.
    This has made me realise how much I need to learn about what they’re going through. It raises important questions about how I can help to move things forward, not just in the USA but in the UK and the rest of the world.
    I’d like to thank all the courageous Black and BIPOC B-School members for their vulnerability, and for all of their teaching at a time when they were particularly emotionally exhausted and heartbroken. It’s been invaluable to me and many others. You’re right. Many conversations have been uncomfortable and messy. But without them, I wouldn’t know that I need to “do the work” too.
    Marie, I’d also like to thank you for your leadership in this. I’ve been impressed at how readily you’ve realised and owned up to your mistakes and how you’re learning and correcting your course.
    While I know how hard you’re working on this issue, I’m requesting that you devote some time considering how those of us around the world can identify and combat racism where we live as well.
    Thank you.

  55. Mary Law

    I am so relieved you spoke to this. I witnessed you and another influencer handle this whole thing totally wrong. You rose. You learned. You admitted. You committed. I’m not a member of B-School yet. I couldn’t decide between your program and hers. I now know where my money and my choice are going. Thank you, Marie!

    • CHELSA

      Mary, as a fellow woman of color, reading your comment brought me to tears. You said exactly what I was feeling. I’ve admired Marie Forleo ever since I saw an interview of her on Impact Theory. I am enrolled in her Copy Cure course right now. Marie admitted she made a huge mistake during one of our Office Hour calls. I didn’t know exactly what she was referring to, but knew it must have been out of alignment with her professed beliefs. Honestly, I was stressed that I would have to disinvest my funds and find another program (because I’m getting excellent resources in the Copy Cure).
      This message meant so much. The CLARITY is what I appreciate most. I am so grateful to have an ally such as Marie who is willing to admit to being wrong and make it right publicly with words and action. “You rose. You learned. You admitted. You committed.” Yes! God bless you Mary and Marie <3

    • Marie

      Hi Mary. Thank you so very much for your comment…this is something I hold close to my heart. “You rose. You learned. You admitted. You committed.” ? Thank you AGAIN for sharing your heart.

  56. Hi Marie,
    Thank you for your post outlining your blind spots and your stance. Addressing racism, oppression, and white privilege can and will be messy. And yes, you’ve made choices that have brought you great criticism. Still, Marie, as a black B-Schooler and follower of your work I want you to know that after witnessing the unfolding of events in the Facebook group and the backlash that you received, I never expected anything less from you than the complete, excuseless acknowledgment that you have offered. If I was a betting woman I would have put all my money down to wager than if anyone would truly listen, own up to her mistakes, and do her darndest to make sure that her actions match her true heart, it would be you. I know it’s cliche to say that nobody’s perfect. Though to me, and to so many others, I’m sure– you are and always will be the real deal. Thank you, Marie, for your efforts and for being a truly inspiring leader. #LoveFirst

    • Marie

      Roxanne, thank you. With my whole heart. THANK YOU.
      It’s hard to put into words how much your comment has impacted me.
      Thank you for this grace. Thank you for your #lovefirst. Just thank you. ?

  57. Anna

    Hi Marie,
    Thank you for this. I’m not in B-School, so I had missed this. There’s a risk in publicly saying what happened and how you messed up, but I’m glad that you took that risk. Thank you for being an example of what we as white people should do (apologize, listen, learn, make permanent changes, and grow).

    As a white disabled person, I do want to make sure that this is not overlooked: we MUST uplift Black disabled voices. The changes you’ve outlined are great, but it’s important to include the ENTIRE community. I’ve recently been hit with the realization that my ability to receive help for my disability is largely based on the fact that I’m white. I know how much more work I have to put in just because I’m disabled. The Black disabled community has to work so, so much harder because of racism. Not to mention the lack of help they would receive based on the systematic racism.

    As a disabled person, I want to help those who are also disabled; we’re too often pushed aside. As a white person, I have the privilege to use my voice, and have people listen to it from the start. I don’t want to be quiet about this sort of thing anymore.

    Without exception, every Black voice should be cherished. You have a wonderful opportunity here due to your platform. Please don’t forget the Black disabled community (and other groups within the Black community) as you make these important changes.

    With love and thanks,

    • Marei

      Hi Anna, thank you so much for your comment and I agree with you fully. We’re in this for the long-term and there is MUCH work to be done, which yes, includes the Black disabled community. ?

  58. Marie,

    Thank you for your humility. In my view, it is always courageous to admit when we each error and then to have the willingness to take the actions to make it right with others whom we offended…. I have lived it and I so get it!

    I am a white, Jewish, senior woman who has, at times in my life, been at the effect of horrid antisemitic comments. I have always done my best to understand, with compassion, the narrow minded place from which these painful words were spoken…
    When small minds have spoken about the Holocaust as if it
    never happened, which wiped out my beloved late relatives, I have had to grow a second emotional skin from learning to deal gracefully (and sometimes I didn’t!) with such insanity.

    However walking down the street, I have never had to endure what my black and brown friends have lived through in their lifetimes because of their color.
    I cannot even fathom the pain and heartache the years of repeated injustices have caused millions of of our beloved Americans.

    My late parents bled “blue” and taught me to see people and not color in friendships…So standing up for and accepting all people equally is in my bloodstream…

    Yes, our nation needs a total overhaul in our every system for the sake of inclusion for all. My heart has been broken over the recent death of George Floyd and all the hatred and violence before his murder of other innocent people due to color. There aren’t words.

    I am praying that this moment in our history witnesses change in our behavior to honor ourselves as human beings who are united by simply that…being human instead of dividing ourselves by judgement of color.

    Thank you for speaking out.


    Lesleigh Joan Tolin, MS,
    Advanced Grief Recovery Method Specialist

  59. Bj

    White privilege? You’re listening to the wrong people and no apology necessary to not want controlled triggered drama. I couldn’t read it all. This said from a white woman, who’s not a racist and grew up a minority in a changing city.

    • Marie

      BJ, I do not agree with you. My actions caused people harm. Doesn’t matter about my intent. That’s irrelevant.

      If you’re open to learning, here’s a great books of list to get started. Having an open mind is a brave thing. It also can help change our world for the better. ?

  60. CJ

    Hi Marie and crew,
    You are spot on about the justice system or lack there of in the U.S.
    I’m a white 56 year old Canadian and at the end of February this year my husband and I were arrested and jailed in the states. We were in jail for 24 days. Guilty until proven innocent. The charges against us were beyond ridiculous. We sat there in front of a judge while the prosecutor flat out lied making up charges based on no proof what so ever. He wanted our bond to be $250,000! He wanted to keep us in jail and he succeeded.
    There is a core manifestation of corruption that runs through the U.S. I do not pretend to compare our experience with that of George Floyd, I can relate to the unjust feeling of having your life and freedom drained from you. I know why people run when the police show up, I would run now too.
    If I can’t find justice as a white business woman, what chance do black people have?

  61. Shannon

    I’m a black woman. I’ve appreciated, purchased and supported your work for years. And knowing you are doing THE WORK by acknowledging your blindspots, listening and making positive adjustments for POC is comforting. Keep Being Courageous. More Courage = More progress

    • Marie

      Thank you Shannon. I really appreciate this comment. You have my word, you’ll see and hear more as we continue on this path. We are in, 100% ?

  62. Yentl

    I think one of the most valuable lessons I’ve gotten so far from the Copy Cure is to not be afraid to sound more like myself, because if I lose people to the sound of myself…then those aren’t my people! I’m a brown girl, born and raised in the oldest living colony, Puerto Rico. Always treated as a second class citizen, and still…not a real clue what the African American community goes through here in the US. You are as elegant as ever making this statement. Thank you 🙂 My love to you & your whole team.

    • Marie

      Hi Yentl. Thank you so much for your heart and what you shared. We are sending you our love right back. ?

  63. Hi Marie,
    Thank you for this statement. I’ve been following you for over a year and was interested in B-School but hesitated to sign up specifically because I felt that equity and inclusivity and acknowledgement of privilege were not apparent enough. I love personal development and coaching and your personal style/energy, but the notion of encouraging people to ‘go for their dreams’ from a position of privilege without acknowledgement of the entrenched barriers that so many people face in ‘going for their dreams’ was creating a disconnect for me. Your statement has allowed me to feel more connected to your character, business and vision. As someone just starting out my own business–a business specifically about social justice education for parents (–I think that your expertise combined with your new commitment to social justice over the long run can not only better serve my business and other social entrepreneurs of color, but most importantly, the cause we are all fighting for–a better, more equitable world. Thank you and I look forward to following you as you continue on this journey.

    • G.

      “ encouraging people to ‘go for their dreams’ from a position of privilege without acknowledgement of the entrenched barriers that so many people face in ‘going for their dreams’ was creating a disconnect for me.” THAT PART! As a black woman, I agree. Thank you for articulating it so well.

      • G, thank you for replying to my comment. It helps me (and others I’m sure) to hear your perspective.

    • Team Forleo

      Hi Akila…thank you so much for sharing your perspective and some other folks have shared the same sentiment. It’s a really important point and we want you to know that we’re listening and hearing you and the other voices who have spoken up about this. Thank you so much for chiming in.

      • Thanks Marie and Team Forleo for responding! I really look forward to your next steps and being a part of it!

  64. Marie, all I can simply say is thank you.

  65. Sandra J Williams

    Marie, I am so happy you have embraced the new paradigm, where we truly see chapter and verse what has really been happening in this country. I have been angry and upset myself as a 70+ white woman, ever since I was a child and witnessed the struggles from the 50s on. I have had tremendous admiration for the people of color who have had the courage to step up and push back, often to their own demise. Even with the history I’ve seen, I still didn’t really begin to grasp the scope of the issue until I watched Dr. Carol Anderson of Emory University – the head of the African American Studies department – on YouTube. I think her talk should be required watching in every school in America, including all private ones, before one can get a diploma . I hope it goes viral and I am sending it to all of my friends. Here is the link:
    Bless the ladies who took you aside to clarify matters, and bless you for taking it to heart and ACTING ON IT. May your efforts be a template for the new America: now that really would make America great. So far it hasn’t come close that mark IMHO.

  66. So yay! I have felt completely turned off from bschool ever since coronamess started because there was no room left to express how this has affected business. I dropped out of the last module because a kind of depression hit me. I was not allowed to express this here because of rules. So I feel like ignoring the entire situation and how it relates to new avenues caused by corona, good and bad. So I left and expressed my self elsewhere . There are other online business platforms where this is encouraged and we learn and grow together figuring the entire mess out and supporting each other and digging deep into every area. These riots are the inevitable creation of America’s (and the world’s) stance on the corona lockdown. We were never allowed to delve into this area here. Heartbreaking. So I do hope for the future of bschool that there will be more allowed discussion and openness of uncomfortable and current issues.

    • Team Forleo

      Hi Chava…thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and opinions. We’re so sorry you didn’t feel like the space was open for you to share. We are absolutely committed to doing and being better. We are listening and learning. Thank you again for your voice.

    • Thank you, Chava. I appreciate your share as it reminds us that we cannot separate who we are from our business. Particularly as solopreneurs. Impossible to do business as usual, or build a business of one’s heart, mind or body is in pain. I too hope that there will be more allowed discussion and openness of uncomfortable and current issues.”

      May your depression have found a path to heal. Wishing you peace and abundance.

  67. odile

    Thank you Marie, I am so deeply touched I am of black and white Origins from the Caribbean and a long time fan of your work. thank you so much, so deeply touched, in tsars, have no words to describe more for the moment. It’s history restauration and it is not about black or white it is about humanity, finding our Unity back ! So deeply touched.

    • Marie

      Thank you for your note Odile. We are sending you an enormous hug and so much love. ?

  68. Lisa McLean

    Please answer why you’re not part of #sharethemicnow

    • Marie

      Hey Lisa, I’ve been off social media (with the exception of being in our B-Schoolers FB group) until today. I do not know about this. We’ll go research now. Thanks ?

  69. Paul Flood

    I’m a 63 year old white male and I’m not a member of the B-school or Facebook group but I’m on Marie’s mailing list and was glad to see this post about self-reflection. I’d like to share a story of a memory of my childhood:

    Back in 5th and 6th grade, I spend Saturday mornings at the church of a friend of mine. We played in the Community Room while waiting for our friends to arrive.
    Our friends were African-American boys and girls a year or two younger than us. They took buses in from Bridgeport, CT come and play with us.

    We had loads of fun. Kids playing, laughing, running, yelling and doing things kids do. When the morning ended, we all went home. Me to my house in the beautiful Connecticut countryside, surrounded by woods, streams, lakes, farms and all I needed to be happy. They went home to Bridgeport slums, surrounded by poverty, crime, drugs, hunger and the things they were used to.

    My friends and I were aware that we did this to help others who did not have what we had. We were not aware of the truths behind their lives. We were kids.

    Our school had art rooms, language labs with headphone and microphones, a beautiful library and a swimming pool. When we were studying natural sciences, we headed out in the back of the school and were taken to trails in the woods where we held leaves to study the patterns of the veins and crouched down to watch the salamanders and turtles who lived there. We studied astronomy in the school’s new planetarium.

    I never visited their schools but I do know there were no planetariums, art rooms, pools or woods. Bridgeport was well known for racial disturbances, mortgage redlining (official programs to deny blacks and other minorities home ownership) and crime.

    Tony was the name of the little boy I originally hooked with on those Saturdays. We had loads of fun and I remember laughing hysterically together and playing with him.

    While I remember the play times, my most vivid memory about Tony was not about playing with him. That was the call I got one evening from Pat, the Director of the Youth programs at the church. I don’t remember the whole conversation but I distinctly remember her saying, “I have very sad news. Your friend Tony died. He fell into a sewer and drowned.”

    I don’t have a lot of other memories about that night but I remember crying and asking my mom why they had to play in sewers. It was difficult to understand why my friend died. Today, I realize it’s because the white majority allowed it to happen by denying so much of what was considered “normal.”

    Much of what we learn about the past is heavily filtered through agendas that overlook systemic racism and the impact on the little Tony’s who died and those who lived but were denied opportunities. As the saying goes, “the victors write the history.”

    The future is yet to come. I believe we can make it better by our actions today and all tomorrows. That starts with awareness, collectively. Our words and actions matter. A police officer torturing a black man (or anyone) to death, is unacceptable. This is not law enforcement. It’s not anti-police to speak out and say so. The history I plan to be part of is the one that acknowledged the systemic racism in this country and began a healing. The genocide of native cultures, the extinction of species, the oppression of minorities and women must be recognized and admitted. If we’re uncomfortable and feel suffering by reading and learning of it, that’s good. Let the discomfort be additional fuel for change.

    • Andre

      Wow Paul! What a powerful story this is! Thanks for sharing ? It reminded me of my own privileged childhood growing up in Venezuela, where “poor people” (majority brown-black) were totally ignored. Not even once, I remember having had a conversation with my family about inequality and systemic racism. It was a “given”, and that was just the way… Sadly, not much has changed (in that regard) since then.

  70. Marie THANK YOU so much for sharing this and letting me know where you are at with this transformation and how you’re moving forward. It helps me understand how I can move forward in my own life. I’m looking forward to what you and Team Forleo roll out in the coming weeks and months. I support you the whole way sister!

  71. Lisa Best

    Wow, that took courage to write your apology and offer your help financial and otherwise. I remember you when you began about 10 years ago and were just some girl online giving a class, haha! I see how you have grown your business and your personal life. So I commend you for also changing your beliefs, meaning let people speak. As a Black American Woman, I pray that this time, yes, this time (I can repeat that 1 million times), good change happens and keeps advancing. A white friend said to me, “it’s hard as hell to be a woman in a male dominated society!” I told her, add black, working class onto that. She said, oh, yeah. I support all women and people and wish us all well. All black people want is for white people to feel the same, equally support and wish everyone well, in all areas of life. I think you are magnificent! Wow, I’m starting to cry, haha!
    Thank you.

    • Marie

      Hi Lisa, thank you so much for what you shared. I’m in this. This world is not currently what it can be. There is so much work to be done, but I believe with my whole heart that we can and will get there, together. Thank you again. ?

  72. Dear Marie,
    I love you and out of no disrespect I will defend who I please. Not even you can tell me that sort of thing and my actually listen.
    People stand up in different ways, as I’m sure you know. I know because I am not in the health to stand up the way some do. Due to that like you I would not gain some peoples acceptance, etc. but just like you I do not care about that.
    My obligation or whatever people wish to call it is to stay alive. That is why with no disrespect I am no coach and do not wish to be in politics, the health field, etc. That is why I have chosen art.
    I do have politics in my blood and I can not deny that nor will I. I’m very proud of it but I need no dr. no therapist, no coach, no person nomatter what to tell me that seeing others harm one another none stop would harm me. I have seizures, that causes them, so in reality it could kill me. Seizures kill, they also have caused me to fully understand some of the hate that others have to deal with. I don’t know about anyone else but I want to live. I learned along time ago to ignore those who harm because they do not deserve the power to take my life. I learned that from blacks standing up for me in high school.
    If you wish for B School to turn into a political school…so be it. If others wish for whatever they stand for to become politcal so be it. That is totally and completely up to those who own and run those businesses. It’s not my say, it’s each owners and again…I could care less about anything that does not harm.
    I still stand by everything I have ever said about you though. Like it or not but I live in a small community and yours was the main one that let me in and reminded me of what so many beautiful souls in art taught me. That kept me alive so do I need a response? I’d love one, like most people but I no longer have to have any comments of aproval or love to love myself and know that I can. As someone once sang I know where I’m going and like it or not thanks for the reminder because I sure as hell remember where I’ve been!
    Out of nothing but love and respect for everyone everywhere.
    Angela Taylor
    P.S. You do what you think is right and I’ll stick to art because I think living is right.

  73. Sharron Cosgrove

    I enjoy what you’ve written Marie. Last week, it seems we collectively reached a new place and let’s see how it rolls out. My thoughts are growing strongly that we need the Marie’s, Oprah’s, Jay’s, Vishen’s, Vitale’s, Russel’s, the actors, actresses (many others as well). We need all of you NOW to stand and say no more – the current racial situation, though a deep routed pain that needs resolving, is at the moment being spurned by political tyranny. You are extremely powerful people whose followings are growing as humanity evolves. We need leaders of a new world who are already in place to come together and lead us beyond. Within your groups, you’ve got the followings, the platforms, the values, the teams in place to lead. PLEASE, I urge you to come together at this point and help us make this happen!

  74. Wow! Reading these comments–and following this process as it unfolds–has been educational, moving, and ultimately inspiring. My sincere thanks to every single one of you for sharing of yourselves at this world-changing moment. With special gratitude to the women who kicked off this conversation. Thank you, thank you.

    Also, I’m not in B-School, but I would love it if Marie could find a broader way to highlight B-Schooler businesses owned by people of color, so we can all give their businesses extra support. Thanks again.

    • Marie

      Yes! Genevieve! This is on our list 🙂 I have *many* ideas and you will see them come to life. Please stay tuned. ?

  75. Joe Themens

    Black Lives Matter – TRUE – but why the necessity to narrowing it down.
    Why not – All Lives Matter. The color of your skin is not important.
    We are all ONE. One molecule, one energy’s. We were created as ONE so let’s live as One. Thank you Marie for your true leadership. You’re awesome.

    • Erena Thompson

      “I also believe that if one part of our community is suffering, then the rest of us need to pay attention and lend a hand, even if our help feels small compared to the challenges ahead.
      That, after all, is what saying “Black Lives Matter” is all about—not that anyone else’s life doesn’t matter, because of course it does. But right now some lives are more threatened than others, so that’s why I believe all other lives should support them”.

      In solidarity,
      Chris Guillebeau

    • Marie

      Joe, we have an episode about this with Franchesca Ramsey — please watch it. She put it brilliantly. I believe it will open your eyes and make an impact on your heart and help you see a new perspective.

    • Maria

      Exactly! The day that we can look at someone and see a person without seeing the color of their skin is the day that racism will not be an issue.

    • Elizabeth


      When we say “all lives matter,” we are lying. (1) For decades and centuries this country has not valued Black and brown lives. (a) Most states still have (unenforceable) laws or state constitutional provisions limiting what a non-white person can do. (b) The state of Oregon where I now live was founded as a white utopia where it was not only illegal for Black people to live, but it was legal to lash a Black person once every six months if they refused to leave. There are deed restrictions (now unenforceable) that a parcel may not “be transferred to a Negro;” how does it feel when you go to buy a home, and learn that the neighborhood was founded on keeping your Black family out? (2) This country still does not value Black and brown lives as much as white ones. (a) Individuals with Black and brown skin are more likely to be incarcerated, starting with arrests by “resource officers” in public schools. (b) Non-white students are more likely to live in areas where public schools are underfunded, because in most parts of the country the schools are funded by property taxes, and for years non-white people were not allowed to live in the “nice” neighborhoods. (c) Non-white people committing the exact same crimes as white people are many times more likely to receive the maximum sentence or death penalty. (d) A white criminal such as the Stanford swimmer rapist are likely to be shown on media using a yearbook photo or prom photo or similarly formal/nice photo, while a non-white crime victim is likely to be show in a mug-shot type picture. (e) There are reams of evidence and studies showing that a resume submitted for a job with the name “John Smith” will get more interview requests than an IDENTICAL resume with an “ethnic-sounding” (white-people code for “Black”) name.

      I could go on and on, as these are just a few of the examples that show that historically and today, all lives have not mattered, all lives have not been and are not now valued.

      To say “all lives matter” is to lie.

      When we say “Black lives matter” we are also clearly lying. Breonna Taylor’s life mattered so little that she was shot in her sleep and the official police report of the investigation states that there were no injuries. Malice Green’s life didn’t matter when police beat him to death for refusing to let go of a vial of crack cocaine–even though the penalty for holding crack cocaine has never, ever been the penalty of being beaten to death with police issued flashlights. Rodney King’s life didn’t matter when police beat him nearly to death after chasing him on suspicion of drunk driving–even though the penalty for DUI has never been “the suspect will be beaten within an inch of his life.”

      When we say “Black lives matter” we are both setting out a prayer or invocation for a better future, and we are loudly and unrepentently demanding equality for people whose ancestors were brought in chains and sold and treated the same as a cow or a sheep or another piece of living property. When we say “Black lives matter” we are demanding justice. That tape of Ahmaud Arbery? No arrests were made because the police saw that tape. Arrests were only made after WE, the public, saw that tape. How many white men have been killed in the same manner as George Floyd, with a person entrusted by the state kneeling on his neck and literally suffocating him to death? That would be zero–and that’s zero white men who were 100% law-abiding AND zero white men who had a criminal past, even a criminal past with a murder in it.

      We say “Black lives matter” because we want a world where this is the truth.

      If your wife came up to you in the house, crying and clearly hurting and asked you, “Honey, do you love me?” It would be cruel and unfeeling to reply “I love all of the members of this family.” Similarly, if your neighbor came running into your house to ask to use the phone because his house is on fire, you wouldn’t tell him “all houses matter.” It’s HIS house that’s on fire. If you were playing soccer and your goalie broke his leg, and your teammates raced over to help him off the field, you wouldn’t yell, “what about my leg?”

      Saying “Black lives matter” does NOT say “only Black lives matter.” In a country where white lives have been highly valued and black lives have not–see, for example, the lynching of Emmett Till–it can be read to mean “Black lives matter TOO.”

      Until the lives of the Black, Indigenous, and People of Color in this country matter as much as the white ones do, we will keep saying “Black lives matter.”

      BTW I’m the whitest of the white girls, with two parents who trace their heritage back to at least the 1600s with long lines of other pasty white people from northern climates. Black Lives Matter.

      • WOW and thank you @Elizabeth. A history lesson and preaching all-in-one. To read this I hope others will begin to see what is mean when we speak to systemic racism. The raw and real truth.

        I am touched when you write, “When we say “Black lives matter” we are both setting out a prayer or invocation for a better future…” Maybe those who may not understand the message or are spiritually bypassing will find a way to understand and support.

        Mostly, I want to know if you have posted this anywhere else. If so, I’d like to share on FB, IG or Twitter. I do not see your last name so I cannot search. I’ll try searching unique text from what you share but if you read this, please DM me (Karen McMillan @kdmcmillan on FB or @kmcmillan on IG).

        Your compassion is articulated so well. Your historical wisdom is so valuable. As a black woman/WOC and a nerd, I appreciate the value of education and believe that knowledge is a path to freedom (of course, blended with Martin, Malcolm and the Black Panthers). I’ve created a #BLM page on my website and believe following up on this share I’ll find much more to add to the Black History section.

        Peace and deep gratitude for you. ???✊??

        P.S. Recently watched a replay of James Baldwin speaking at I think it was Berkley. He reminds us that before migrating to the U.S. folks were not identified as white, they were Italian, German, French, and so on. So, you may be “pasty” but it does not sound like you have taken on the limitation or shackles of being identified as a white woman, or white privilege. If so, you are aware of and doing the work.

  76. Writing this from Aotearoa NZ as I’ve woken up to this, this morning.
    First of all thank you for taking 100% ownership Marie.
    I am an indigenous WOC and the wife and mother of people who are my WORLD that are members of the Black American community.
    Our 9 year old son overheard my husband and I discussing and grieving over the traumatic footage of George Floyds murder. “Why did that cop kill that man mummy”?? Our response – “This is why we choose not to raise you and your siblings in America as much as daddy misses his family, it’s not safe for us there”.

    Outrage, hurt and heartbreak were my personal feelings as a human, indigenous Kiwi, WOC, Wife and Mother.

    You are someone I’ve respected for years and someone I’ve CHOSEN to tune into as part of my daily routine over all these years and recently this year taken the plunge to invest $3000 NZD that I did not have (and still paying off with interest) despite not being financially viable yet as a full time at home Mother of our 3 young children dependant on my BlackAmerican husbands income because that’s how much trust you’ve built with me and to convince him to support this investment.
    When the news of GeorgeFloyd’s murder reached our shores I wanted to hear from you, your response, your leadership as one of the main mentors in my life. Your motto “Create a life and business you love” – We can’t do this without feeling heard, seen, and that we matter. That’s what you’ve taught us in your Marie TV content for years.

    By the time I searched for your response on Facebook, the page was already closed, I couldn’t see anything in my inbox or on the blog. I had to google Marie Forleo George Floyd to see if I could find anything from you….. All I came across were blog posts about Black B-schoolers being silenced and your action adding to the hurt, pain, anger and heartache. 🙁
    Keep sharing your uncomfortable life lessons on white privilege and how people can learn and be part of the solution and how absolutely relevant this is in creating a business and life you love, the change the world needs depends on it.
    All lives matter when Black Lives matter.
    Thank you for taking the time to see, hear, and feel what’s really going on here.
    Nga mihi mahana,
    Erena x

  77. Hilda Belmont

    “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere” Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
    This is personal…
    Dr. Shefali has helped me understand what is going on and how I can be a part of the solution by starting with myself, hope you can all watch
    Marie or Team Forleo hope you can arrange another interview with Dr. Shefali now on Racism and the Blacklivesmatter movement.
    There are tons of resources in
    There is petition only people in America can sign
    Thank you Marie for being a part of the solution

  78. Hi Marie,
    I’m not a B-school member, but I’ve taken your Copy Cure course and been following you for years on MarieTV and attended your book signing event in LA a few years ago. I want to thank you deeply for speaking up, having the courage to admit when you didn’t make the right choices, and being so clear about where you stand and how you’re taking ACTION (this is key) to do your part in dismantling the racist systems which have existed for so long and hurt our black community. And thank you for giving voice to the black B-school students, you have no idea how much of a difference it makes to be seen, heard, and VALUED as a black person in America. I say this to you as a black female entrepreneur, I very much look forward to hearing more about the work you and your team have committed to do.

    • Marie

      Cherise, thank YOU for your comment. I could not agree more. ? I too am looking forward to the changes we’ll make and how we work to build a better future. Sending enormous love. XO

  79. Shyloe Fayad

    I agree Tammy.

  80. This is what I posted on FB, along with a link to this blog.
    “I’ve followed Marie Forleo for many years; she’s a modern-day Renaissance woman in her own right. Apparently, she made an error in judgment and, true to form, called herself on it and issued this public apology. But it goes beyond an apology – she also enacted a plan for a better future.”
    Thank you for being kind, sharing what you learn as you find your way, and being transparent. Though I realize you’re not seeking this sort of recognition, I’m compeled to say: Well done, Marie.

  81. Stephanie

    As I read through the comments I keep learning and listening. I am a sensitive soul and I have white privilege. I am also a B Schooler but was never able to join the FB group (still working on that) so I missed the situation that happened there. However, as I read this my heart is being broken open. Listening and learning from the black community is one of the most helpful things I’ve found during this time. I feel for Marie, as she does what I too am doing, sitting with the discomfort of owning our blindspots. I sometimes question if what I am feeling is valid because I can’t imagine what the black community feels. I tell myself what I am feeling my brothers and sisters of the black community are feeling this 100X more and I am determined to find a way to be a part of the solution and ease that pain. Thank you Marie for being so transparent with your steps that you are going to take. I can look at those and apply them personally. I’ve already started my reading list (not looking for a cookie), and granted a book isn’t going to fix this and like you said there is no “anti racist” morning routine I am committed, like you, to constantly take action. To my black community – please please please don’t stop sharing your stories, your experiences and your guidance. I know I am not the only one who is taking this all in and learning so that I can truly show up in the world differently and be a part of the change. Thank you Marie for being a TRUE leader. This post and the comment thread gives me so much HOPE that we are truly moving in the right direction of inclusion and equality.

    thanks to all the commenters for sharing their perspectives and stories.
    Thank you Marie for being so vulnerable so that your followers have permission to be just as vulnerable and get just as messy.


  82. Edward P Besserglick

    There are a lot of movements to defund and re-constitute police departments. Please keep thee bigger picture in mind.

    Our government needs the same review and dissection. It is government that allowed these racist actions to occur without punishment or attention to detail. Our national, state, and local governments need to recognize the need for reform and change.

  83. Maria

    I have been following Marie for years, and one thing that I love about her is that she is always willing to “be a lifelong learner.” She made this right because when looking at people she does not see race or gender…she sees people. For anyone who follows her this is crystal clear. For years, she has stressed compassion and love for everyone, regardless of race, gender, etc. She is someone who looks at people and sees the purity of their soul, not the color of the skin. What happened to George Floyd was a disgrace, and it should not happen to anyone. If those police officers simply treated him with the human decency that anyone should be treated with, we would not be in this situation. I pray that we all continue to follow the example of people like Marie, and simply treat everyone (people, animals, the planet,etc) with respect and compassion. God Bless!

  84. Hi Marie. In future interviews, can you gather some experts to help us gauge how to attack institutionalized racism from the top down, not just the bottom up (where we all stand together relative to the power structures that drive our country)?

    Everyone’s work on the ground floor is required. And thank you for your generous donation. But where are the reparations missions and statements of solidarity from Wall Street, banks, private equity managers, real estate companies…etc? Can you bring on some experts who can teach us about next steps on that scale? Waging our businesses and earnings on that level?

    • Marie

      Hey Ruby, thanks for your comment. I agree. Adding this our list of of things to research. I’ve been doing my own research on ways to reimagine economics (as in macro economics) and there are some interesting findings. If you happen across someone in your travels that you feel I should know about, please write me [email protected] ?

  85. Hi Marie,

    This post shows me your humility, accountability, and trainability; all admirable traits of an effective leader.

    Thank you for showing the way for non-Black folks who don’t know what we don’t but are willing to listen and learn from others.

    We business and community leaders need to be in full support of our Black, Brown, Non White, and Non Privileged brothers and sisters because the problem is societal and deeply entrenched in American government and the American psyche.

    I am hopeful that this journey will be fruitful because so many of us are learning, waking up, and becoming the change agents in our families, businesses, and communities.

    Lots of Love & Light from Fremont, California:

  86. Laura

    I’m just an old, white gal from the boonies. Believe it or not, where I’m from white folks are the minority. Always have been, always will be. I won’t pretend to know what it’s like to be something other than white. I won’t pretend to know what it’s like to be in anyone else’s shoes no matter what their color. I suppose social media had a purpose when it first gained popularity but now it has grown in to a monster that spreads hate and discontent. Before we start getting our panties in a twist and demand defunding police or reinventing governments, we should start boycotting social media; close all FB, twitter, or whatever accounts are out there. I closed all of mine about 6 years ago and do not miss them at all.

    • G.

      The fact that you cite *social media* as the cause of what’s happening now (which, BTW, stems from centuries old systemic racism, oppression and brutality against other human beings), is problematic thinking from the bubble of white privilege that can’t be denied, no matter where you are from.

      Social media is another platform for exposure.

  87. Natalie Moon-Wainwright

    You have shown courage, Marie. I’m listening and learning along with you. I want change and equity and I will stand up and show up for people of color. Black lives really matter. We can’t back down.

  88. Aleks Webster

    Thank you for standing accountable for your thoughts, actions, and deeds. To be able to says “I was 100% wrong.” is a courageous act. And, to acknowledge why you were wrong is vulnerable and transparent.
    Way to be a strong image maker!!

  89. Someone

    As someone married to a person of a different race, and whose child is therefore of mixed race (as we all are, my dear people), it makes me sad to see that race difference is becoming ever more important, and that racism is becoming ever more pervasive (although hidden under the cloak of “antiracism”).

    Please note I am keeping my race and my gender anonimous, so that noone can judge my words on any consideration other than what I am expressing.

    I will continue teaching my child to judge others and interact with others based on their character and the way they act, as opposed to the tone of their skin. I will continue to teach my child to listen to every voice with the same respect and consideration, independently of who their parents were. And I will continue to teach my child to take ownership over life, and to abstain from blaming the circumstances, other people, “the system”, etc. for the results of my child’s life decisions and actions. In short, I will continue to teach my child to be a free, self-sufficient, powerful individual.

    I hope these statements do not get me banned from this group, but frankly it would not surprise me if they did. If that happens, so be it.

    Thanks for reading.

  90. sonja

    I want to know how a business owner hires more people of color if:
    1) hiring is done almost all online
    2) you want to hire the best possible person and that person turns out to be not of color.
    I have always wondered about the ads and poster that encourage the hiring of military vets. What if they are not the most qualified applicant? So the same applies here. What does an owner/HR person/manager do in this situation?

    And a lot of this goes way back to education and ensuring that ALL get a fair and comprehensive education so that they can be the most qualified applicant. It is so hard to unravel this knotted ball of twine. Like Marie, I want to listen with my heart, I want to learn, I want to root out any bias and prejudices I hold, and we all hold them, many of them. I don’t know if it is possible to root them all out, but it is one of my jobs in this lifetime to do my best towards others. Kindness and education. I pledge to do this.

    • sonja

      thanks! appreciate the tips

  91. Very proud of Marie with taking responsibility and doing something REAL. Not just talking about it.
    Many years ago I sent her and her team an email about what I found to be offensive with the way Marie was communicating in her videos. A long time subscriber to her YouTube channel (I’m seriously old school), I would cringe every time she did what appeared to be a “black sister” voice using ebonics and changing her tone and phrasing. I found it embarrassing and insensitive and took me out of the value of what she was teaching. I received an email from her team letting me know that they agreed and had (either) taken down the recent video – (which was interesting because up to that time she was communicating in this way in all her videos) or that they had a discussion and would be making changes. I then noticed that she ceased from acting and talking this way…it took a bit of time it didn’t happen in the next video but it did happen. I respect that, and understand that some people just do without thinking and when they learn from a mistake they admit it, learn from it and do better. A small matter, but every small step ends up accumulating to a big change.

  92. Thank you, Marie.
    What a week it has been learning about my own biases and white privilege. It’s been absolutely unbelievable how clueless I’ve been my whole life. I’m head down with learning but feel really excited about the possibility of change for everyone.
    Keep leading the way.

  93. Monica

    This is bs. You shut me down from commenting for no legit reason. I am brown and Hispanic and reached out to you and your team to get clarity on why this happened. Nobody has reached out back to me and it’s been about a week already. You shut down my voice and I don’t appreciate it. I removed myself from the group because of this and I’m honestly considering if I even want anything to do with you or your team now.

    Take care.

    • Marie

      Hi Monica, I can understand why you’re upset. I’d be upset too. This all happened at a time when half of our Customer Happiness team was off for their scheduled breaks with their family — which was really unfortunate timing.

      I’m not sure what specific post you’re referring to, but as I shared — we’re actively working on overhauling the guidelines now, and if you should choose to return, you’d be most welcome. ?

  94. Quincy David

    Good on you for this, Marie. Seriously! Good on you! Now what you need to do is get in touch with Oprah (since you guys seem to be so close) and ask where her support is right now (when it’s needed most) and where has it been every other time something like this has happened in the past. =|

  95. Leslie S.

    I just want to say that I appreciate your transparency and accountability. We all make mistakes, but to admit when you’re wrong, take full responsibility, and take action to course correct creates an opportunity for real growth and change. I’ve always liked and respected you, Marie, but after watching how you’ve responded, that respect has grown into admiration. I love that you’re beginning an initiative to hire more black people, because truly, our perspective enhances y’all’s. Sending you much love.

  96. Marie, grateful that you are showing us what it looks like to take responsibility and learn from our mistakes. I’ve made my fair share of mistakes. And we are all learning, growing, and evolving.
    It is part of the human condition. A quote I have set as a daily reminder is “admit your mistakes, and be tolerant of the mistakes others make.”

    May we all do the internal work and business work to to be better anti-racists.

  97. Great episode

  98. Very happy to read this. Thank you for the work: past, present, and future.

    Love to BIPOC, Team Forleo, and MF Army! We can, and will, change the world. ?

  99. Reese

    I just want to say that I’m so proud of you for this statement and all the thoughts and actions behind it. It is evident that you did tremendous soul searching and found your way to the loving direction. It takes courage to admit and stand up for the truth. I was just introduced to you yesterday, but this is such a beautiful step for anyone and everyone that needs it. Thank you for choosing LOVE.

  100. Ann

    OK Marie, I will respect your request and not defend you but I will say even when you make mistakes, I still feel the love in your heart and no mistake can ever take away your love.

  101. I have loved and adored Marie for years, but reading this, I’m angry and disappointed. I feel like it’s all words, Marie. I wanted you to SHOW YOUR FACE last week in the blog or podcast adds you were silent. Of all the weeks! People do not need a newsletter this week, they need to HEAR, SEE, and FEEL your heart, not read your policies.

    While I’m glad you’re giving at least 50% of scholarships to BIPOC, I’ve been asking since 2014 for you to consider scholarships to people with disabilities who have a 70% unemployment rate that no one gives a shit about. Do you need to see a graphic video of a person with a disability suffering from ableism (no one likes to talk about that either) before you offer something?
    So disappointed, but still love you.

    • Marie

      Hi Kathy,
      I understand you feel disappointed. However, I was not silent. I apologized on Monday via Instagram and in our FB Group. I spent all of last week in our FB group connecting with our B-Schoolers, specifically, Black B-Schoolers. While you may not agree with my decision, I chose to focus my energy with our community since that’s where the hurt occurred.

      Also, we’ve been awarding scholarships to people with disabilities for years. (We’ve also been awarding between 30-40% of scholarships to people of color for years. This statement is just an increase of what we’ve already been doing, because we can and should do more.)

      With love, ?

  102. Respect from New Zealand. Respect to every single person here in the comments, those seeking to understand, to change, to support, to discuss, to feel, to share, to reflect, to listen and to learn.
    This has been one of the biggest awakenings of my life to appreciate my white privilege, and how I can stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
    It’s also the one time in my life I haven’t found the words to express what I’m feeling, the empathy, shock, horror, guilt, shame – basically all the feels.
    I saw this go down on social, and Marie I acknowledge you for fully owning this and taking responsibility, and taking action. There’s so much more work to do for ALL of us.

    As a business owner, like so many here, a content creator, podcaster, author, course creator, coach, sister, friend, partner…I’m looking at all areas of my life and business where I can personally improve and embrace diversity. From the voices I share on my podcast, to the case studies and stories I share and receive, from the community members I love and support, and to my small but international team.
    I’m sending a whole lot of love and compassion out to you all, and also showing more self-compassion to myself.
    It’s definitely time for change.

  103. Louisa

    Is the FB group currently closed? It says unavailable when I click on it.

    • Marie

      Hi Louisa!
      We’ve instituted office hours which means members can only post when moderators are available. You’re still able to see all the posts — so you should be able to see the pinned post at the top, which has all the details. ?

      • Louisa

        Thank you Marie! It seems that I am blocked from the group. I have no idea why. I have not participated in any of what was going on. I was out of town and missed all of it. But it seems that now my access is taken away. I emailed you guys asking the same question. Waiting for a reply. Thank you!

  104. Louisa

    Please do not forget that a lot of this is typical divide and concur. A lot is happening behind the scenes in our country and the corrupt politicians want to turn us against each other. This is a classic power grab. I live in metro Atlanta area. When you turn the TV, the social media off and go outside you see nothing but mutual respect, support, understanding in people. There are people here from many different backgrounds. They have businesses next to each other. We go to concerts and sporting events. Our kids go to school together. I love where we live. There will always be bad people. We can’t eliminate all evil, but we can’t stop seeing the good where it overwhelmingly exists. There are more more more good people than bad.
    The corrupt politicians are playing chess to grab power and using us the people as pawns. As you know from the game, the pawns get sacrificed first. Don’t be their pawns. Don’t turn against each other for them. They are not worth it. Also one clarification please. When you say “Actively remove people from our B-Schoolers Facebook community who participate in racist behavior and dialogue.”, I agree, but how are you going to make a determination what’s racist or someone just disagreeing with you? A lot of people have been called racist lately that are not. I hope my comment doesn’t get ignored, because I sincerely want to know.

    • Marie

      Hi Louisa,
      We’re working with our B-Schoolers now to determine new guidelines, so I don’t have an answer to your question yet. If you’re in that group, you’ll see that we are having lots of conversations like about this in there that you’re welcome to join. ?

  105. Florence Lesouef

    Dear Marie,
    I was silenced in our FB group even though I am not black. I left the group since as I could see people comment on my post (mistake not to close the post to all) without being able to answer. I believe any kind censorship is dangerous. Freedom of speech is precious as it also gives different tastes feel and colors to our world and make us realise how diverse and unique is our human experience. I have to say that my post wasn’t in any way racist or not acknowledging the tragic death of one of us. It must be so hard to be looked by so many people watching your every move… I wish I could tell you that any experience you are having is the one that you need as others are going through what they need but it seems a bit more complicated than that when you are visible as you are. Wishing you luck and strength. Much love ? Florence

    • Marie

      Thanks for your note and support Florence. I’m so sorry that your post was silenced. Without knowing the details, I could imagine how upsetting that must be. We’re in the midst of an enormous overhaul in that group (guidelines, etc.) and it’s a messy process that will take a bit of time. ?

  106. Jonathan

    Hi Marie, It’s your worst copy cure student here. Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for being so open to change and for always trying to be the best human being possible. Maybe I haven’t listened enough or read enough of your material, but I always felt that your wisdom, practical steps and solutions and “everything is figureoutable” principles were something that included EVERYBODY and gave EVERYONE a chance to implement in their lives at least to some degree depending upon their personal season, for there’s a time for everything. I’m not in the B-school, so I don’t understand the details about what happened, but it sure seems like you angered a lot of members when deciding to shut down the comments section after a week. In many ways, I don’t really get it. If you’re the virtual instructor of a class, why aren’t you allowed to close comments on a topic when you feel that’s it’s time to re-focus back onto the curriculum. I’ve been in live classes and other environments where there’s been some pretty heavy and emotional topics or life events that have happened, and I’ve sort of cringed when the leader or instructor has moved on, but we all got back to the subject matter at hand and things were okay. For this amount of backlash and apology, it must have been done in a remarkably rude way or something. Nobody’s perfect. Anyhow, it might not be politically correct or the right thing to say or ask, but regarding the action items, on #4 & #5, do you think that your company is overcompensating for the apparent misstep? On #4, the act of removing people from the community who participate in racist behavior and dialogue sounds good but tougher then it seems. Figuring out what counts as racist behavior is not always black and white no pun intended, and some views these days are by individuals just presenting another side are they’re being shut down and censored. How does anyone reach people and begin to know where they’re at if they can’t share authentically. People bring all kinds of misinformation, bad thinking, negativity into their business and personal lives, and you’re able to start helping them make the positive turn. I’ve seen it time and time again. Why does the negativity of racism or ignorance need to be any different? If people just get shut down, the conversation ends. I seriously doubt that the true change people are looking for comes out of fear but rather love. Love comes from understanding and it usually gets dirty. Regarding #5, for 50% of the scholarships to go to business owned by BIPOC is quite a chunk. Wouldn’t it make more sense to establish a separate scholarship for BIPOC? If there’s 10 scholarships available, for example, why not just make a the separate BIPOC scholarship of 5 and reduce the general scholarship fund down to 5. This way it recognizes and highlights the BIPOC recipients and creates a legacy of giving to that community/cause while not placing non-black applicants competing against race. I think when an applicant applies knowing that 50% of the spots are going to individuals making up 13% of the population, who are then placed into a pool based on race and of that pool, based on merit, nabs half of the total spots, it can create the wrong energy. Anyhow, if you notice, I’m disagreeing with the net results of these two action items mentioned, just some food for thought.

    • Jonathan

      ** I’m NOT disagreeing with the net results of these two action items mentioned. Sorry, that’s a REALLY big typo!

  107. Joe Themens

    Thank you Marie. As you suggested in your comment above, I just watched your video with Franchesca Ramsey and I do now understand what ”Black Lives Matter” which is not the same as ”All lives matter” .
    I own my mistakes and I owe an apology to all concerned.
    Thank you. I have grown up today.

    • Tiara

      Thank you, Joe – I’m touched and heartened that you watched with an open mind, and what a wonderful thing for all of us to learn each and every day.

  108. Thank you for showing up and sharing your process owning white privilege. An excellent example of recognition and right action. I am so glad you shared your process and the plan moving forward. I can feel the care and attention you are giving to the BLM cause. Thank you for demonstrating what a white person can do in support of equality. Looking forward to what else you do in this area!

  109. Nicole B Tate

    Thanks for clearing this up. I have to admit I was EXTREMELY offended by your initial actions.
    If you need more diversity on your team, let’s have a discussion.

  110. Dearest Marie,
    I want to say that through what happened :
    1- you closing the comments sure, but also you working very hard in the background to get – and you did it!- a quick and practical response.
    2- but mostly you recognising humbly the mistake you found you made,
    well..I basicaly got some evidence that this girl, Marie, was really “into it”.
    Into her business, but into her Ethics too.
    Showing yourself as so human has shown you cared, and actually were there on the stage, because you reacted. So thank’s for that, you’re not a fake.
    Now, I have read carefully your solutions, and Mary, I’m wondering: is this right to actively promote people, based on their color and not their skills? Because this is what we’re talking about here, am I right? Do Black people want to be promoted based on their color? I’m very interested in hearing where and how exactly you guys are being neglected. I just basically don’t doubt it for a minute, let’s be clear. But I’d love to understand to get help find a better action. And I’m only focusing on Marie’s work, here, like she did. I clearly have no ideas, and I need and am willing to know what’s going on for you, guys.
    Can you practically guide me with your stories?
    That being said, guess what? One of my (multiple) beloved sisters that I have raised as my baby due to the age difference has been constantly told by her father (half indian- half black), that because we were white, then that bridge between her and us will never be made.
    But how is that possible? When it comes to my cherished baby sister? I mean how can you even put that idea where it’s clear that there is no gap at all, and we are a family .And it works: She’s confused whatever the reality (that is love) is.
    And another question: are the black people ready to not consider us as white? 😉
    Toubabs, and co?
    What do you think, guys? I love the differences, but I fiercely combat discrimination of all kinds.
    Thank you, Marie, for your work and your support.
    Can’t wait to hear form you, guys.

  111. Revital

    THANK YOU! This is the first step to healing and going forward. Sometimes we need to realize that change can only take place when we acknowledge what is wrong. Marie, you have shown time and time again – especially in the above post, that you are willing to do what it takes to create a better world for humanity. Now it is up to us all to take the steps and actions to end racism and injustice. When we listen to others, it opens us up to consider new views. having people from different backgrounds paints another pictures that we may be able to relate to. Most importantly, It all starts at home. We can’t allow racist comments, jokes and demeaning behaviors in our own homes and in our close social circle and then yell out when we see it outside. If you hear, see, know of someone that is discriminating – SAY something! We can’t do it alone, we need – All of us – to come together and say enough! We will never go back to the way things used to be. Say a prayer for humanity, for harmony for justice. Marie, I love you more than ever for being so transparent. Peace to all.

  112. Truth

    Business as usual is changing.
    Even online coaches and businesses need to know who they serve, know what they care about, know their struggles. Know who your audience is. Keep them front of mind. Be relatable.

  113. Marie, thank you for your courage and, most of all, your humility to share a message that inspires all of us to be a united front against injustice and to champion the dignity of our brothers and sisters who have been persecuted on all fronts for too long.

    As a small business owner of color (Asian and Hispanic) I want to do all I can to help the black community and show them care and support. Did you know black communites are 7 TIMES LESS LIKELY to have access to mental health services? A black friend confided in me that for the longest time her parents denied the fact she was suffering from depression because of the stigma that mental illness is not something people of color suffer from. That really blew me away and has inspired me to be proactive with providing relief where it is so sorely needed.

    If you or anyone on your team know someone who would be interested in helping me get Emotional Journey Coloring Books for free to black communities via a partnership where, for every book purchased, I donate one to someone who would otherwise not be able to afford it, I would be ever so grateful. On my website anyone can custom design a coloring book detailing whatever pain, grief, or loss they are coming to terms with and want to grow through and heal from.

    This is the time to take action and I want to stand with black lives because they matter.

    They have always mattered.

  114. Roseanne Bottone

    Brava, Marie! Can you imagine what a world we’d have if, like you, people:
    1. Admit their mistakes? Then,
    2. Open themselves to learning WHY they were wrong? Then,
    3. Apologize sincerely, ask for forgiveness, and take full responsibility for their errors? Then,
    4. Put together a comprehensive, long-term plan of action for change? Then,
    5. Implement that plan with energy, creativity, personnel, diverse resources, and money?
    We all make mistakes; no one is immune. To err is human. Make sure you forgive yourself too in step # 3.
    This, right here, is an example of how to make the world a better place. Your actions exemplify how to improve relationships, the work environment, business transactions, global challenges, and so much more. I’m proud of you and thank you for your inspiring and uplifting message.

  115. Thank you for being transparent and taking responsibility for your words/actions. Your humility is inspiring. Much love ? ? ?

  116. Team Forleo

    Hi Daniela,
    We’ve been muting people in the Facebook group who are posting racist, dismissive, or demeaning things in regards to what their Black peers have been sharing. If you feel we’ve muted you in error, we’ll be happy to review it. We’ve received your emails and will reply as soon as we can. We appreciate your patience and understanding.

  117. Maria

    After much debate, I have decided to share a personal story that is very simple yet extremely powerful. I am a white woman. While in school, I stayed in a dorm and was placed on a floor with black females. Yes, I was the only white person on the floor.

    These other women did not treat me better because I was white, and they did not treat me worse. They simply treated me as a fellow human being. We had study sessions, went shopping, went to parties, etc. My point here is that they looked at me and saw me for the person that I was, and not the color of my skin. I was the new kid on the floor and was accepted with open arms. It was a great experience and resulted in friendships that I still have to this day.

    Let’s take an example from these women.

  118. Thank you Marie for owning up to the issue. I had seen you mention solidarity previously on Instagram but at this time our voices need to be heard loudly and everywhere for people of color that truly Black lives do matter. I live in Georgia (US) home to voter suppression at it’s finest. I recently had to quit facebook and Instagram as that company allows Georgia politicians to run adds promoting the killing of black people and protesters to gain points with their racist constituents. Until called out by the media the ads were seen by 100;s of thousands. That was the last straw. If you want to support real change for black people your organization should also consider less reliance on their platforms so all people can participate without feeling like they are selling their souls. There are all types of ways we can support people of color and I think this would send a powerful message that indeed you are taking action.

    • Sandy Barrett YES! Consider ther platforms, please. I’ve been MIA from FB for most of a year. Having moved my intimate community off of FB. I hear you and hope Marie also hears. FB has never been a safe space. Also, so little ability to promote real communication and connection among members.

  119. Andrea de Boer

    I am so relieved to read this email. Thank you.

  120. Lisa

    Thank you for addressing this head on, putting yourself in the middle of this enormous global reckoning, and sharing from your heart how you believe you can help through your network to add to the communication, education, understanding, and healing, as well as justice, that must happen.

    I expect some will focus on and stay on the mistakes. Others will choose to be part of future that will be even more beautiful and diverse and richer than it has ever been before. I look forward to those future stories and voices.

    Best to everyone in B School. ♥️

  121. KC

    Marie, as a B-Schooler (2018) and Black female entrepreneur I thank you for this thorough response outlining how you will move forward from this. I have noticed some of the blind spots in the past and I am happy to see it being addressed.

    If you are looking for BIPOC to interview, work with, or amplify, I wanted to share an incredible resource with you.

    Our Voices Our Lives is a free docu-series featuring entrepreneurs of color by a friend of mine, William Feagins Jr. ( Each episode is excellent quality and he features a wide variety of creative entrepreneurs.

    Please take a look at

    Will has also produced a documentary entitled The Possibility of Her, highlighting 12 women of color in non-traditional careers. I’ve been following you for the past 2-3 years and both of these projects seem right up your alley. I hope you will consider contacting Will.

    Implementing what you’ve laid out will only make your company stronger and more of a force for all people. I look forward to watching this process in action.

  122. Mary

    Like Vivi, I missed out on the debate in the FB group. Loved this post from Marie! Own up to our mistakes and make corrective action! Growth Mindset st work!
    For Jeannie – love your comment about usage of the word „ Tolerance“- instead, we should just use the word „ accept“. Could you image saying to a child „ I tolerate you.“?
    But I was a bit shocked by your comment on Japanese in WWII. Or at least mentioned Chinese in your comment as well. As millions of Chinese suffered brutally during WWII under Japanese occupation. Like the Long history of Black slavery in the U.S. , China suffered 250 years of Western & Japanese occupations, wars and brutality. I believe a basis understanding of both histories are important.

  123. Carol

    Thank you Marie. Leaders lead. And sometimes we lead by getting face to face with our inconsistencies and our blind spots. Thank you for owning your mistakes publicly and initiating the changes to correct and make amends. Thank you for showing us that even when we mess up, if we value community, we make it right.

  124. Amna

    Thank you so much Marie. Our race, ethnicity or skin color cannot determine the value of our human worth. This is a basic universal law we as a human race have the responsibility to abide by to keep society functioning and for any potential to move forward. The lives of Black individuals need serious protection from all communities, institutions, and political infrastructures on the planet. It our responsibility to uphold this standard otherwise we will continue to be fragmented and the reality will get much grimmer if isn’t already each passing day. We can and I hope will pivot as a human race and let go of our old ways.

    The obligation to protect Black speech and voices is as imperative as protecting the lives of Black people. F*** everyone that says otherwise, I’m sorry. The brutality and medieval policing of our states have no end besides to destruction. We need better practices, and re-training in our justice system. This is not who we are and we can re-shape, re-frame, and re-prioritize our values and beliefs to lead a more compassionate and just society. It starts with white people like MF acknowledging their own privilege and perhaps biases. It starts with company initiatives like MF’s that are pledging to support Black-owned business and Black leadership.

    I side with you Marie. Thank you for waking up. In your heart MF, you are exemplary of the possibility for deep, meaningful change by your own recognition of being part of the problem and doing something about it. Now I believe sincerely, you are part of the solution. I hope more POC will be represented on your show as you’ve had many but certainly not enough in my opinion and it has always bothered me about your show. I am huge fan of your work as it’s helped me to empower myself after an abusive relationship and feeling caught like a hamster on a wheel for a white corporation with few POC overall in the company. I strongly in my heart support everything you’re doing from today on!! You are such an inspiration so please keep on going! I love you!

  125. Thank you for sharing this. I’ve been trying to listen, to have challenging conversations and I intend to continue doing so. <3

  126. Maria Jones

    Marie, thank you!
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.-James Baldwin
    Love, MJ

  127. Hard topic. I hope something will change for better. Love and light to people which are hurting right now.

  128. Team Forleo

    Hi Louisa and thanks for your patience. We’ll absolutely be responding to everyone who’s written in and we’re giving each message the time, attention, and care it deserves. We’re looking forward to getting back to you as soon as we’re able and we appreciate your understanding.

  129. Team Forleo

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for holding us accountable, Ellen. You’re absolutely right––we’re late to this. We should’ve been doing so much more, so much sooner. What Marie shared here isn’t our entire plan. We’re rethinking and restructuring everything from our community to the content of our paid programs to our front-facing content (MarieTV, the podcast, the blog, social media, etc.), and our company culture to be explicitly antiracist. We understand we broke your trust and need to show substantiative action to earn it back. We’re looking forward to repairing the harm done to the community and making this right.

  130. Team Forleo

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for holding us accountable, Ellen. You’re absolutely right––we’re late to this. We should’ve been doing so much more, so much sooner. What Marie shared here isn’t our entire plan. We’re rethinking and restructuring everything from our community to the content of our paid programs to our front-facing content (MarieTV, the podcast, the blog, social media, etc.), and our company culture to be explicitly antiracist. We understand we broke your trust and need to show substantiative action to earn it back. We’re looking forward to repairing the harm done to the community and making this right.

  131. Thank you for being you Marie, I love you so much and everything you have indirectly taught me that you’ll probably will never know how much you’ve affected me. As a latin man I also want to thank everyone here who is taking the time to comment and contribute to the conversation because this is what it takes for change to happen. However, I really think that where we are all headed is an amazing place where we’re all going to be blown away by (wink wink) in the very very near future. Mark thy words! 🙂 This is literally not going to be a global change… it is a global transformation that we’re all going through right now and we can all feel it. It’s a bit uncomfortable and a bit painful, but it is going to be so worth it! So hang in there everyone because nobody ever becomes happier, healthier or stronger by being comfortable. Much love, health & strength, -Juan A .

  132. Laura

    It’s wonderful to have this conversation – uncensored – and with people from all parts of the country and hopefully globe. My 2 cents: “Tolerance” – let’s let that term go by the first half of 2020 wayside. “Acceptance” – this word is the bare minimum. We all accept certain uncomfortable truths and realities to some degree or other, so this is weak. I propose “Inclusion” as a better word and action to step into. We need to to so much more, but “Inclusion” as a starting point seems a more compassionate, engaged and active intention to step into. With so much love for the gorgeous black individuals we are blessed to share this planet with…xo

  133. Mary

    Glad to hear that you are developing a sense of what white privilege means and acknowledging the injustices people of color have endured for far too long. We have to identify our biases, our role; work to change ourselves so we can help others see the truth; and not sit back complacently but take action each and every day to change our racist oriented society by demanding change in our institutions and our government to ensure “equality for all.”

  134. Laura

    Did you sign up to be an MF insider? If so you should be receiving weekly emails from Marie every Tuesday? I get Marie’s emails every week without fail.

    Double-check that you’re signed up for her weekly emails. You don’t want to miss them. Actually I only subscribe to Marie’s emails and I look forward to them every week 🙂
    Take Care

  135. Ellen Frances YES!!!! You said it well. I’ve little to add. Simply affirming that I hear and feel you. December will tell. As will 2021 and beyond.

    People write that it’s a marathon. Nope, another reminded marathons have an end. This is a life-changer. A revolution to evolution.?✊?

  136. After reading many of the messages from this tread, I realized that racism was ingrained in my life very early, even if I don’t consider myself racist. This started with xenophobia in my immediate family (French Canadian), which was the premise for racism. I remember the day I got home to introduce my boyfriend who was from Lebanon. He was the first person from another country who was introduced into the family circle. But what I see now with what’s going on is very different. If I understand correctly, it is rather a long period in the history of humanity where it is a question of racial justice and equality. It is as if all nations can suddenly hear the deep feelings of suffering, grief and frustration from black communities around the world. To finally recognize their needs, which I can only imagine being listened to, considered, with a need for emotional and physical security, to connect, to be seen for who they are and to matter like anyone else.

    I thank everyone for this conversation, including Marie and her team, who allow themselves to speak openly about this issue. It also gives me the opportunity to open my mind wider for which I am grateful. To also honestly look at what I can do to fill the void that has existed, so far, between my own education and today’s reality. Thank you for this opportunity.

  137. I accept that I have a huge learning curve going on here, so much tragedy and hurt to be absorbed. With everything going on here in North America, Canada has just added one of the biggest Dust Ups in Social Media and Entertainment this past 10 days. Everyone can read the whole sordid story on Instagram and You Tube Videos but thank heavens someone took action to sort things out. Hooray to the Big Corporations that will no longer stand for White Priviledge and Now Listen and work with our total population. Dear Sasha took a beating in total silence from Jessica and thank heavens Sasha spoke up and explained what happened and the threats she lived with for nearly 2 weeks from Jessica, most of the time in fear for herself, her daughter and her Lively Hood and Income to survive. Bad Move on Jessica’s part, horrible by all standards. White gone Bad. All Sasha asked on her Instagram page was all Influencers use their voice to support Anti Racism and stand together to get our society heading in the right direction for all of us to survive and Survive safely and healthy.
    I am learning and please keep talking to me, and sharing,
    Blessed Day to Us All


  138. @MarieForleo … you were on my “cancel” list; and then this happened. Thank you for ACTIVELY listening. If you would like to continue these “Courageous Conversations”, #CallMe.
    This is not a “Moment”; this is a “Movement”.
    Nicole Tate

  139. Lisa

    Thank you for owning this. A friend sent me an article about what happened in the Bschool group on FB.

    I’m here to tell you that everyone makes mistakes, and that we are all learning a great deal right now. I forgive you.

    I’m also here to tell you that as a 2013 Bschool grad, I left the FB alumni group months ago. I wasn’t very active in the group, and when I was I found a lot of the members there to be judgemental, bossy, and projective. The few times I reached out, asked questions, or posted, people would boss me, tell me how I was “supposed” to be, demean, and even responded with ugliness when I took ownership of a sensitive issue I was working through.

    I don’t want or need that kind of energy in my life or my business, and decided to quit that group. I have since found other groups that are much kinder, more helpful, not judgemental, and supportive.

    Social Media can distort. It’s tough to take back things you say there. And, groups are meant to bring people together. Bschool alums disappointed me. I won’t be back.

    I will continue to glean from your work.

  140. Diamond G

    I highly recommend anti-oppression consultant, teacher, and facilitator:
    McKensie Mack

    “My name is McKensie Mack and I help organizations identify and transform social inequities at the individual, interpersonal, and institutional levels. I hold extensive expertise in expanding dialogue around equity, inclusion, and anti-oppression at the intersection of race, gender, class, sexuality, and disability.

    It’s time to go beyond diversity. It’s time to redefine relationships.”

  141. Hi Dear Marie and team ,

    I have to admit that I stayed as a distant observer of what has been unfolding in the Us and igniting other movements in the world ;
    Yes I am white and even if I have experienced being ostracised, bullied and rejected socially; I can only grapple on how it may feel from the experience I saw my coloured friends going through. It has been UNFAIR for TOO LONG projecting the separateness that has been ruling our world and dragging us all into the vicious circle of attacks negativity and drama ; Blacklivesmatter is not a new movement and the American history has unfortunately proven that not only black communities but all coloured communities have been ongoingly discriminated; It is difficult as a non-american to fully comprehend how deeply it has wounded the collective energy of t your country ;
    All I have experienced is actually lightness and openness from the black communities when I found myself travelling to the west and east coast of the US in the past 5 years ; I stayed in downtown San Francisco and LA as well as Brooklyn and as I walked along with a joyful and unworried mind projecting my oneness core value ; I HAVE NEVER FELT THREATENED ;
    I believe part of the solution is on an individual level; being willing to rewire our minds, hearts and souls; shifting from a race projection to our oneness truth every day , and with every encounter ;
    Healthfully yours. Audz

  142. Anne

    Hello Marie and Bschoolers,
    I am really happy this conversation happened and am glad that you and your business are moving forward on supporting Black people and people of colour. I am a Bschooler (year 2016) and even back then I noticed how taboo it was to speak not only of race, but of supporting female voices. During the metoo movement, the coaching and personal development community was silent, and I felt this added an eery dissociation. I felt I had to choose and I did not feel that I could support coaches who would not acknowledge the national awakening of that time and the power imbalance in our society that leads to the truth being overshadowed by men who use that imbalance to exploit women, girls and children. I think it is time for the coaching community to take a long hard look at the relationship between personal responsibility to take care of ourselves and to examine accountability and social responsibility. Yes we do need to encourage each other to be all we can, and operate under a sky’s-the-limit mentality, but we also have to acknowledge the systems of oppression that work so hard to take us in the other direction. Let’s keep moving forward. Much love to you Marie and team.

  143. katrie

    Hello Marie,

    Thank You for being an agent of Change

    Its time to Listen with our hearts & understand with our souls!

    Humanity is calling for understanding. when we listen intently we have the capacity to understand each other no matter how different we might seem. As a black woman who lives in Canada I have experienced both implicit & explicit biases on regular basis this strengthened my understanding of the limited beliefs of others, the quest of internal growth and deepend my committment for serving & understanding humanity what do I mean let me share a true story. When I used to work in retail a customer came in & wanted something but no one could understand her because of her limited English. while I was helping other customers I could see her frustration with my colleagues so asked one of them to let her know to wait for me so I can help her when I am done at the same time I smiled at her. you could see right away how her demeanor changed. I went to her listened, listened with my heart, heard and finally understood, solved her problems she thanked me & left. My colleagues were shocked & said what did you said to her & we did not know you speak chinese I replied I dont speak chinese but I speak Human language, the language that anybody can understand if you listen intently, hear with your heart, and understand with your soul what others are telling you.

    Most of our thoughts, internalized beliefs, emotions, and learning are in the subconscious mind. So our Subconscious fears, & desires drive our motivations and actions so in order to create meaningful & lasting change to happen we need to ….

    1. Go back to the basics we’re all created equally
    2. Awareness: You only change what you’re aware, create conscious awareness of what is happening within us & around us
    3. Acknowledgement: The key to unlocking unconscious biases, believes, prejudices is knowing our internalized biases & the deep desire for change & growth
    4. Intention: Making committment with yourself its time for Mindshift
    5. Learning: Opening hearts & Expanding souls( know more, listen more, read more, understand more, experience more from others)
    6.Self-Reflection: What is the purpose of life to help or hurt humanity
    7. Agent of change: Upholder of truth, seeker of justice, voice for the voiceless, speaker of the uncomfortable
    8. Truth Seeker: Always seek the truth no matter how hard
    9. Critical Thinker: Ask the why of everything, why this person or that person is feeling the way they are feeling
    10. Education: Transforms & Sets You Free.

    lets all be agents of compassion, humility, understanding each other no matter how different & Justice for all!

  144. Ljubisa

    Dear Marie,
    You know that everything is figureoutable. You are a strong and righteous woman. Already, you have corrected your mistake and will be. You know how to do it. You have my respect! Devoted forever, Ljubisa.

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